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23rd September 05, 07:35 AM
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Golly's jacket...
Originally Posted by auld argonian
I've been mulling over the same thing...after watching last weeks installment of Monarch of the Glen and taking note of the outfit that Golly was wearing for a job interview, I had to think that his jacket, which was in tweed, bore a resemblance to what we in the US would call and "Ike" jacket (after the President and General Dwight David Eisenhower). Thought that there might be some promise in looking in for things using that as a sort of "keyword". I would assume that there would have been/still are things like that made in a suitably tropical material.
Golly's jacket in question was a standard tweed day jacket, not an "Ike" jacket, which is similar to the British Battle Dress Jacket of the Second World War -- the web site for Sav's WWII Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders reenactment unit has some good pictures of this style, which is a short "shell" jacket.
Cheers,
Todd
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23rd September 05, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cajunscot
Golly's jacket in question was a standard tweed day jacket, not an "Ike" jacket, which is similar to the British Battle Dress Jacket of the Second World War -- the web site for Sav's WWII Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders reenactment unit has some good pictures of this style, which is a short "shell" jacket.
Cheers,
Todd
Thanks for the references. I did recognize that there were differences and that the Ike Jacket looked a lot more "military" than the one in the MOTG episode...the similarities being the length, the epaulets and, if I remember what I saw correctly, the waist on Golly's jacket was "banded" (for lack of a better term as I don't know how else to describe it)...these features made me think that this particular jacket did look a little more "military" than, say, a Crail Jacket. I know that the epaulets are traditional and sort of a "standard" feature on most kilt jackets. If I think of any reference on the jackets worn by the WWII highland regiments, I think of the costuming in "Tunes of Glory" as being about right though of a slightly later vintage.
It's all in how to describe something here in the US to folks who aren't very familiar with them. If I found a jacket to take to a tailor, I would probably have to explain that the waist should be at about the same spot as an Ike Jacket...though with the profound grasp of history in this country (!) I might have a hard time finding anyone who remembers who "Ike" was. It's like the old question: we called it a Nehru Jacket...what did Nehru call it? If you asked him, he'd probably say, "...it's just a jacket...why do you ask?"
And. let's face it, most folks probably think that Nehru was the guy who invented the Nehru Jacket and know little else about him.
...sorry to drift so far off topic...middle age...you know how it gets.
best
Auld Argonian
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23rd September 05, 08:36 AM
#3
You know, in this particular situation...
Need a lightweight jacket
need it to be really smart-looking
limited time
I might bite the bullet and go to a tailor. Take pictures of argyll and braemer and crail jackets. Take lots of them, take pics of the darts in back, take pics of the pockets, etc. If you can take in an existing jacket that's heavier weight, but in the style you want, it'll help. Think hard about what sort of material you'd like. A light suiting wool is a good possibility,I'd also agree with linen, though linen is a serious stinker to keep looking crisp. It wrinkles at the slightest opportunity.
a light summer-suiting weight plain wool blend might be the ticket.
This won't be "cheap". But on the other hand, when you're done you will have a great jacket for summer, and you will be able to wear it for decades, as it will be the furthest thing from "disposably trendy" than anyone can imagine..
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23rd September 05, 08:56 AM
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I agree with Alan Graham. I have looked at the price of new ones, and the price of getting one made is very comparable. I used to get shirts made for me when I was in the business world and the cost per shirt was and still is (to me anyway) $50.00US. Yesterday I was at a department store and looked at some shirts for the cost of $70.00US. Granted this was at Nieman-Marcus (Needless Markup).
Glen McGuire
A Life Lived in Fear, Is a Life Half Lived.
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23rd September 05, 09:07 AM
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Man, all this talk about an "Ike" jacket reminded me that I am old enough to have actually worn one in ROTC back in the days of the old "Brown Shoe Army". It was a nice comfy jacket, much more comfortable than the newer green tunics they switched to in the "Black Shoe Army". Only problem was it only came in one color OD!
Jim (feeling old)
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23rd September 05, 12:17 PM
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I third Alan on this one. You can have a jacket made up to your specifications, or find a jacket you like & have it shortened to wear with your kilt. You'll have a jacket that you can wear for many years.
Sherry
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23rd September 05, 04:20 PM
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Sorry, but you city folk don't realise how small this place is, I doubt whether we have a tailor in the state capable of doing a kilt jacket.
I really wish I'd bought one when I was with Freelander in Inverness!
I'm thinking Kiltstore might have something, they seem to deliver pretty fast.
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