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23rd September 05, 08:24 AM
#21
I agree with Blu to a large degree... or to paraphrase Nike, just do it! On theother hand, where I live and work I encounter a large number of people who have never in their lives seen or heard of a kilt.
Where I work we have a number of Chinese computer programmers. I, for example am in the middle of training a new student worker, she's a graduate student in Statistics from China. She has freaked out, seeing pictures of me in a kilt. Today will be the first day she'll see me, in person, kilted.
It's taken some significant education to get these women (they're all women) to adopt the word "kilt" and come around to the idea that it's not a woman's skirt that I'm wearing. Honestly, I really don't care what they think. If they have a problem with it, it's THEIR problem, you know? On the other hand I do work with them, and a modicum of understanding goes a long ways towards a bit of comfort in the workplace.
"skirt" to people who have no experience with kilts means that I am cross-dressing. That makes for discomfort in the workplace. But take that exact same situation, replace the word with "kilt"..show them some pictures of Sean Connory, Prince Charles, Vin Diesel and evensome of the guys onthis board, and so on, and all of a sudden the problem goes away.
I wouldn't waste my time trying to correct someone on the street or in the store beyond a smile and sixty seconds regarding the word "kilt" and what it means. Past that, if they have an issue, it's their issue,not mine. But at work, it's another matter.
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23rd September 05, 12:28 PM
#22
Originally Posted by bubba
Coffee????? MUGS are for BEER! :mrgreen:
Indeed. Mugs, glasses, bottles, cans, finger bowls, rain barrels.......
Dee
Ferret ad astra virtus
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23rd September 05, 02:01 PM
#23
Since the dictionary definition of KILT is "A knee length pleated skirt (usually, but not necessairily, tartan) worn by men" I have no problem whatsoever if someone calls my kilt a skirt because it is a skirt.
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23rd September 05, 02:28 PM
#24
Originally Posted by Freedomlover
Since the dictionary definition of KILT is "A knee length pleated skirt (usually, but not necessairily, tartan) worn by men" I have no problem whatsoever if someone calls my kilt a skirt because it is a skirt.
Okay,okay it's a skirt!!Now about the kilt Hose.....
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23rd September 05, 02:39 PM
#25
Originally Posted by Southern Breeze
Okay,okay it's a skirt!!Now about the kilt Hose.....
as long as there's no "panties" or garter belts involved!
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23rd September 05, 02:46 PM
#26
Originally Posted by Iolaus
as long as there's no "panties" or garter belts involved!
No pantyhose either!!
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23rd September 05, 02:47 PM
#27
I'd say "a kind of skirt," I mean, I own a bedskirt and a tableskirt, too, skirt by itself is only descriptive of fabric that hangs in a circle, sorta.
My brain's a little mushy, but see what I mean?
Edit: found a dictionary definition:
Main Entry: 1skirt
Pronunciation: 'sk&rt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old Norse skyrta shirt, kirtle -- more at SHIRT
1 a (1) : a free-hanging part of an outer garment or undergarment extending from the waist down (2) : a separate free-hanging outer garment or undergarment usually worn by women and girls covering some or all of the body from the waist down b : either of two usually leather flaps on a saddle covering the bars on which the stirrups are hung c : a cloth facing that hangs from the bottom edge or across the front of a piece of furniture d : the lower branches of a tree when near the ground
2 a : the rim, periphery, or environs of an area b plural : outlying parts (as of a town or city)
3 : a part or attachment serving as a rim, border, or edging
4 slang : a girl or woman
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23rd September 05, 03:23 PM
#28
Semantics Schemantics
Kilt/skirt
shirt/blouse
trousers/slacks
underwear/panties
bro or manzier/bra (ok that's from Seinfeld)
Many articles of clothing have a "boys name" and a "girls name". Kilts are no more "skirts for men" than shirts are "blouses for men".
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23rd September 05, 03:59 PM
#29
I see where you're coming from, but it would probably be more precise to say:
MUGs/skirts. Kilts aren't the male skirts, they're a male skirt. There's a couple other MUGs, too.
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23rd September 05, 04:44 PM
#30
Originally Posted by jkdesq
Kilt/skirt
shirt/blouse
trousers/slacks
underwear/panties
bro or manzier/bra (ok that's from Seinfeld)
Many articles of clothing have a "boys name" and a "girls name". Kilts are no more "skirts for men" than shirts are "blouses for men".
A kilt is not a "skirt for men"? Then why does the dictionary definition say it is?
Re: shirt/blouse Both terms apply equally to male and female garments.
Re: trousers/slacks Both terms apply equally to male and female garments.
With the partial exception of underwear (briefs/boxers are worn by both sexes), I think that only gender specific articles of clothing can be safely assigned exclusively to one sex or the other. Example: jockstrap=male, brassier=female.
Not looking to stir anyone up. Just giving my opinion.
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