Tom's Cafe history / Split

[Raphael]

The original mission of Tom's cafe to have the 'Bravehearts' and the 'Freestylers' to have a common ground to meet and to discuss all the social challenges that every one faces when they are not in their pants.

The so called 'split' happened because Hank provided xmarksthescot.com as an alternative. Tom's passing accelrated the process. Also, Freestylers and lots of other Tom's cafe partons have different views in kilts. They see kilts are skirts and are fashion items. Most of them don't care the history and proper ways in kilt wearing. They tend to be more innovative and like to free of the bondages established by the traditions. Their main concern is dress the way they want, even tights under their kilts.

As for the social changes, I doubt that any website will impact how men should dress. Most men will check scores or porn first before viewing fashion pages.

If you are to talk about men's kilt fashion, you should also talk about how the metrosexual sense can help the fashion houses to include kilts to their clothing lines.

[Iolaus]

Thanks Raphael, I'll adjust my text to reflect that. As for social changes, I agree, most men are not going to think about changes until they see one of us being admired by the women around them.

The metro stuff won't fly here in orange county; for college students, they're pretty conservative. Besides, I'm already having to trim some stuff out; I only have 8 - 10 minutes, and it's suprising how quickly the minutes go by!

[highlander_Daz]

whats a metrosexual?

[KiltedCodeWarrior]

whats a metrosexual?

Highlander_Daz

From wikipedia:

Metrosexual is a term coined in 1994 (along with the noun, metrosexuality) by British journalist Mark Simpson, who used it to refer to an urban male of any sexual orientation who has a strong aesthetic sense and spends a great deal of time and money on his appearance and lifestyle. He is the fashion-conscious target audience of men's magazines.

There is more, just google metrosexual, but this is the gist of it.

[bubba]

Metrosexual is the current term for a dandy. ;)

[bear]

From memory:
Tom's Café split into the Café and The Atrium when the braveheart/freestyle flame wars happened. (Very acrimonious!)
Things cooled off and went smoothly for a while.
Then The Atrium changed from freestle to trans-gender, (Chris decided to become Christine), and a bunch of freestylers moved back to Tom's.
The flames started again. Tom had passed due to cancer and was not there to stop the fighting.
XMarks starts up and there is a mass exodus of bravehearts from Tom's to XMarks.

[bubba]

The thing that annoyed me the most about Tom's and promted me to leave there for good was the freestylers pushing a "cause" and demanding we all MUST be part of it. It was beginning to remind me of the Monty Python lumberjack song.

[arrogcow]

Just a question. Tom's Cafe says that it was started in 1996, but their archives only go back to April of 2001 (I personaly first heard about them in Sept 2001 and I had been looking for kilt forums before that). Were they really around before?

Adam