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    Dread asked me to post these tonight. Proof of what he was saying. If the mods take exception to it, well, do what ya gotta do. I can't sit by and let you kick someone who's already down.




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    Sorry, but is it wise to post personal documents such as these here, even with the owners' permission?

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    Graham, Dread specifically asked me to post those last night. Since he can't defend himself anymore against the attacks against him by a few select people here, he asked if I could do this for him. I fully expect the Xmarks gestapo to delete them once they catch wind that someone has come to Dread's defence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al G. Sporrano
    Graham, Dread specifically asked me to post those last night. Since he can't defend himself anymore against the attacks against him by a few select people here, he asked if I could do this for him. I fully expect the Xmarks gestapo to delete them once they catch wind that someone has come to Dread's defence.
    Hi Al,
    I don't feel very Gestapo like and take offence that you would compare Myself and my fellow moderators in such a way.Don't worry I'm sorry you feel that way

    However Dread is still able to post here under certian conditions . His posts go into a moderation queue. This he has agreed with Hank . He has obviously chosen to take a little pause for thought. If you have any further comments maybe you could Pm Hank to get a fuller picture.
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    I lie Wow thats Rich !!

    I answered from what I know . Hank is still the owner of this forum Nothing that happens here goes without his notice. Further I was answering What has happened to Dread. Doc Hudson I'm not sure about other than he said he was only sticking around to support Dread.

    As for, was it " dispicable bullies" Thats really nice of you . As I've said PM Hank to get the full story. If I or others where bullying Then We'd have pulled this thread already
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freelander Sporrano
    Hi Al,
    I don't feel very Gestapo like and take offence that you would compare Myself and my fellow moderators in such a way.Don't worry I'm sorry you feel that way

    However Dread is still able to post here under certian conditions . His posts go into a moderation queue. This he has agreed with Hank . He has obviously chosen to take a little pause for thought. If you have any further comments maybe you could Pm Hank to get a fuller picture.
    From what I've been told, everything Dread has tried to post recently has been deleted. I also heard some very interesting things about the mods and the things they like to talk about in their private forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al G. Sporrano
    From what I've been told, everything Dread has tried to post recently has been deleted. I also heard some very interesting things about the mods and the things they like to talk about in their private forum.
    Ok Al,
    Maybe you and the others can tell us all what you'd like us to do? If they include Re-instating DB then you'll have to take it to Hank. Get the answer from him and then maybe all this name calling can stop
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    LOL. Al, I have no interest in what you post in private, why are you so concerned about what anybody else might be posting in private? You've been deceived and so now you are going to come here and start making accusations? You'd do well to obtain all the facts about a subject before trying to pass yourself of as an expert on that subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by Al G. Sporrano
    Graham, Dread specifically asked me to post those last night. Since he can't defend himself anymore against the attacks against him by a few select people here, he asked if I could do this for him. I fully expect the Xmarks gestapo to delete them once they catch wind that someone has come to Dread's defence.
    Here, if we're telling a story, let's make it a true one. If Dread has told you that he could not post on this forum, he should have started the story with "Once upon a time..." and finished it with "...and they lived happily ever after."

    Dread does have posting privileges, albeit limited, as has been mentioned. It has been decided that his posts would have to be approved, on a post-by-post basis. It came down to only two options - moderate his posts or simply delete his account entirely. The decision was made to allow him to post. When he submits a post, the post does not appear on the open forum, it is placed in a moderation queue. The forum staff then can review what Dread is trying to submit and determine whether to allow the post as-is, to edit inappropriate material before allowing it or to simply delete the post entirely.

    I participate on forums that are fully moderated, so that every message by every member must undergo moderation prior to being available on the open forum, so moderation is not all that unusual. Many forums will force users under the age of thirteen to have messages moderated, until parental permission has been received. So Dread was not on a deserted island, all alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Al G. Sporrano
    From what I've been told, everything Dread has tried to post recently has been deleted.
    If that is what you've been told, you've been lied to.

    Perhaps Dread would have done well to have checked his posting status on this forum before setting off on his mission of filling your Inbox with deceptions and filling mine with his cursing, vitriolic invective.

    HERE is an example of a message that required moderation. This was the first message that Dread submitted that required validation. Some sensitive comments were removed from that message and the message was then validated for posting on the forum. I was the moderator that did the editing and the validating on that message.

    Dread did, in fact, submit a post with the above images in it. That post was denied and never appeared on the open forum as a result. I am not aware of who it was that denied/deleted the post. I marked it ignored and left it in the queue.

    Since that message was denied/deleted, my thought is that it was deemed inappropriate for publication on the forum. And so Dread, realizing his post had been denied/deleted, circumvented his moderation status by getting Al to submit the post for him. But remember, Al, Dread is on the up and up and it is that "select few people here" that are being under-handed.

    And now we have Al, obviously not in possession of any of the real facts of the issue, who has been conned into posting previously determined inappropriate material and making derogatory comments about the forum staff as he does it.

    Fact - Dread has submitted a total of two posts for moderation. One in the Tech section and the second with the images that Al has posted. He has made no further attempts to post anything to this forum.

    In all honesty, I fail to see how Al's actions are going to help get Dread's posting privileges restored to an unmoderated status. My guess is that it really did him no favor at all. Dread was well aware that he was in control of his own destiny and as a result, he needed no "defence". His decision to have others help him circumvent the limitations imposed on him is more evidence of the behavior that landed those limitations in his lap in the first place.

    Now, are we back to posting about kilts, or are we going to continue aggravating a festering sore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majestic Moose
    You lie. Neither Dread nor Doc Hudson agreed to have their accounts hacked and gagged. And Hank was actually out of town when this took place, so it was physically impossible to have agreed with him about it. Dread has taken no pause for thought, he has been silenced by a group of dispicable bullies protecting their own image.
    Hi Dread, how's tricks?

    It appears that you forgot me mentioning that we log I.P. addresses, eh?

    Hank may or may not have been out of town, but wherever Hank was, he still had access to a computer, because he was not only in contact with us, but was also in control of his own forum.

    Further messages submitted by Majestic Moose will require moderation. And after his inital post, too.

    And since I am really growing tired of playing this silly game, this thread is being locked.

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