Winter kilt choices?

[bubba]

The military box pleat is different than Matts box pleats. It's almost like a stacked pleat. One side of the pleat is deeper than the other, almost like a knife pleat with both sides folded under. I know I'm putting this badly. Maybe Matt can describe it better. The pleats do stay in line better when sitting than knife pleats though.

My WPG Cameron is holding up great and in spite of the weight (it is a heavy bugger) it's surprisingly comfortable. I paid full price for mine and considered it a good deal so it's a great buy at the sale price. Be aware, this isn't the worsted wool we're used to, it's more like blanket fabric. It's very tight weave, 22 oz and quite warm.

One additional thing, these kilts are worn higher than civilian kilts so the 23 inch Black Watch should be fine for someone as short as 5'6". The Cameron is 24" so I wear it a bit higher and adjust for position on the knees. Works fine.

[starbkjrus]

John M.,

Check out Matt Newsome's website at http://www.albanach.org for an explanation of Box pleats vs. Knife pleats.

Both are really nice and I'm sure you can get that tartan done either way.

[TitaniumRic]

Ditto on the lining.I've been thinking of making one since the underkilt was mentioned.If you could share some details,it would be appreciated.

Im at work right now....I'll take some pics of the lining and draft up a how to( or a how I did it) over the next day or so....If it get's to be too big of a file for the forum I'll link it to my website.

Basically I measured the kilt around the inside exempting the front apron... add 3 short zippers to the inside wasteband with a short cover over the zipper for comfort....added a couple of small buttons to the inside of 4 pleats about 2 inches from the bottom...and presto a zip out lining....(used a formal dress coat with a wool liner as my inspiration) :grin:

[Southern Breeze]

Im at work right now....I'll take some pics of the lining and draft up a how to( or a how I did it) over the next day or so....If it get's to be too big of a file for the forum I'll link it to my website.

Basically I measured the kilt around the inside exempting the front apron... add 3 short zippers to the inside wasteband with a short cover over the zipper for comfort....added a couple of small buttons to the inside of 4 pleats about 2 inches from the bottom...and presto a zip out lining....(used a formal dress coat with a wool liner as my inspiration) :grin:

Thanks for the info.I've been thinking of using velcro though.I have several Stillwater standerds and the underkilt posts gave me the idea of using a liner.That way they could be worn almost year round.It was mentioned somewhere that some of the militery kilts had a liner.I've not been able to track that down yet.

[mkmound]

Thanks for the info.I've been thinking of using velcro though. . . .

Velcro could be interesting when you don't wear the liner -- rather prickly!!

Mark

[Southern Breeze]

Velcro could be interesting when you don't wear the liner -- rather prickly!!

Mark

It can indeed.Thats one of the problems.Right now my liner project is still in the thinking and planning stage.Using a zipper never occured to me.

[Sherry]

My DH gets the itchies from wool, & he'd like a lining in his kilt, as well. I'm thinking that a zipper designed for linings would be perfect for this. It comes long, but can be shortened by whip-stitching ovet the teeth at the point where the stop needs to be. A machine zigzag stitch set to a length of 0 will do the job, as well.

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[Riverkilt]

John,

They're outside your price and time frame requirements, but you can't beat the warmth from a leather kilt. Utilikilt has black leather kilts, Robert at RKilts has many colors of leather kilt.

I have a UK brown leather and an RKilt saffron leather and love them both. Keep me toasty in the foulest weather. Worth saving for next winter if warmth is the key requirement.

Ron

[AckZel]

Well, I'm waiting a 16oz wool kilt from ScottishKilts.net. We'll see how it works out when the temp gets around -22F! I might think about using boxers under it...

[John M.]

Yep Ackwell, -22F is a bit colder than it gets here.

When we have a major inversion settle-in it's not uncommon to drop to as much as -5F for days to weeks at a time and once in a while it will even get lower. Plus the wind is almost always blowing at my house (mountains act as a wind tunnel) and the wind chill has got low enough to freeze my trucks gas lines a few times.

I think I've talked myself into the military style kilt. Between the extra heavy weight & high rise I think it will keep me toasty.