Box pleats

[emeraldfalconoflight]

are both pleated to stripe and set available. I realy would like the Henderson 4yder in pleated to stripe, but I do not know the actual width of the sett.

How long to get the material, make it, and to get it to me?

I would definately want the Henderson, is that a tartan you have readily available at your shoppe?

[M. A. C. Newsome]

You can get any tartan pleated to stripe or sett. I prefer pleating to the stripe in the box pleated kilts. So yes, that would be no problem.

Average turn around time is 8 to 12 weeks. I order all my cloth from the Scottish mills on an as-need basis, so either tartan would be just as easy to get.

Aye,
Matt

[Pleater]

:confused: Found this thread - even though the search function can't.

Don't understand though.

If I pleated 4 yards of fabric into box pleats which are only three thicknesses at any point I could do the whole length and still have enough to wrap - or perhaps I am missing something here?

Pleater

[M. A. C. Newsome]

I'm not sure I understand the question... can you elaborate? Thanks.

Matt

[Pleater]

First, thank for responding.

I have a 4 yard strip of fabric.

After marking the minimum width of the apron and under apron I put in the provisional 'nips' in order to form box fronts and folds, starting from the centre back join. (I round the size of pleats down to gain enough fabric for under apron pleats.)

This is the best aproximation in type I can make of the folds, seen edge on.

Inside of kilt
From the centre back ./_\/_\/_\ towards the under apron.
Outside of kilt.

The fabric is nipped together at the base of the Vs, with the _ being a single layer of fabric 3in wide, the box fronts, and the Vs are double and about 2.5inches high, being the 10 inches of fabric in the two 'wings'.

The result gives me five layers of fabric behind most of the back of the kilt - I chose a box width of 3 inches and each fold was 10 inches which is flattened into two 'wings' one each side of the 'nip' (which is just a few stitches at the waistband level to hold the provisional design)

Those wings overlap. They will have to, I think, if I am going to use the whole 4 yards.

When I put in the flare to the hip during the actual construction of my take on this design of kilt the amount of overlap will reduce but there will still be 5 layers in the centre of each box.

If I make the boxes so that the wing folds are half the front of the box, which gives me three layers of fabric all along the waistline, when I flare for the hip there will be areas of single fabric.

Using a 'no more than three layers of fabric' method it will use even less fabric for the back kilt than my original thought on this method, as each yard of fabric will become one foot of box pleating.

Have I made an eroneous asumption or design error?

Does the normal method just use less fabric than I assumed? ??:

Pleater

[Pleater]

Excuse any snafus - it has taken me 13 minutes to get here - something is slowing down this pc, and having sat down with a glass of schnapps after staying up all night I have drunk it and it has now drunk me whilst waiting.

Sucess - the camo fabric has been beaten into submission and it now looks like a box pleated kilt. Two of the seams are a bit skew wiff - and that was done sober - but I wasn't going to let it beat me - it looked easier than it was though.

Woow - always have had a light head but this is rediculous, drunk in charge of a pc - good morning officer (pc - police constable)

Right - having reported sucess I shall now reel off to bed - tomorrow - later today - I might have a third kilt ready to wear, once I have straightened the errent seams and fitted the fixings - and chosen a belt of suitable colour and apt construction. I might use my army webbing belt - even though I will have to polish the brass. I have some big brass eyelets and snaps somewhere - they might go rather well but they require a sober aim with the hammer for fitting.

I never used to be this vain before kilts!!

Veis heil - thats 'good health' in my native Yorkshire.

[Alan H]

Matt, if you're making a box pleat kilt out of a tartan with a larger sett, say 6 inches or larger, then it makes sense to have roughly a third of the set in each of the folds. OK, but if you have a tartan with a smaller sett, say 4.5 inches, that's going to make for a lot of narrow pleats that aren't very deep. How do you handle that sort of pattern? I'm guessing you pleat to a double sett, or, welll...just have a box pleateed kilt with a lot of narrow, shallow pleats!.

If you pleat to a double sett, do you wind up using more material?