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18th November 05, 12:08 PM
#1
I'm always surprised every time this topic comes up on this board.
And it comes up quite a bit.
ANY KILT is warm enough to wear in the winter. Four-yard PV, eight-yard wool. Sure, some are warmer than others, just as some trousers are warmer than others (I've seen men wearing light suit trousers, and men wearing flannel-lined Carhartts). I've worn an Original Utilikilt (the lighter fabric kind) - along with traditional kilt hose - in sub-zero Fahrenheit temperatures. I've worn that outfit while just standing around waiting for the train. Sure, it's chilly. Sure, I'm glad to get inside afterwards. But so is everyone else who's wearing trousers.
I've worn a four-yard PV kilt through a snowstorm, while wading through a river at the same time (honest!). I walked 33 miles in a snowstorm wearing the same kilt, and 16 miles through another snowstorm a few weeks later. There were others who I was hiking with who ditched off the trail because they were too cold. I was able to keep hiking, "even" in my kilt.
Last year, I went snowshoeing in -12°F temperatures, in a four-yard PV kilt.
A kilt is no colder than wearing trousers.
Andrew.
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19th November 05, 09:00 AM
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...and Andrew Beecher is seven feet tall and has killed men by the hundreds...and if he were here, he'd consume the English with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his....ooops...sorry...wrong movie! (Insert appropriate little smiley faced that denotes that I am attempting to kid Andrew in a good natured way)
Andrew, I guess that the winter thing is something that you've worked out and it's great to know that even the PV can provide enough protection in cold weather. I'd suggest that the fact that you were moving helped a bit...don't forget that some of us who are members of the Recently Kilted haven't gone through the winter kilted yet and really don't know what to expect and might be spending more time standing on the platform waiting for the commuter train than we will striding across the frigid plains of wherever.
And you're dead on about the trousers...lots of the jamokes (Chicago word) around here wear their cotton Dockers through the frigid Chicago winters and get the freezing that they deserve for not wearing warmer pants. I've always found that if your feet and head are adequately covered that it keeps you warm. Wool socks are essential (would someone please tell my teenage son this) and, as a member of the "follically challenged" (balding), I have to toss on a hat or I'm screwed. If I'm wearing a down jacket I ususally have nothing more than a t-shirt on underneath it since those things are plenty warm.
I doubt that any of us will be wearing our long-johns under the kilt (seriously, guys, PLEASE don't do it!) but please understand that some of us are still finding our way and are understandably reluctant to find ourselves stuck out there on the frozen tundra with our yarbles turning blue. Hopefully we'll follow your example but we may have to ease our way into this; making test runs (the quick trip to the home improvement center, the fast dash to the convenience store) to see how far we can "push the outside of the envelope".
best
AA
Last edited by auld argonian; 19th November 05 at 09:51 AM.
Reason: consume was the correct word
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19th November 05, 10:36 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by auld argonian
...and Andrew Beecher is seven feet tall and has killed men by the hundreds...and if he were here, he'd consume the English with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his....ooops...sorry...wrong movie! (Insert appropriate little smiley faced that denotes that I am attempting to kid Andrew in a good natured way)
ROFLMKAO
Don't do that! You almost caused the ruination of another computer by cold beverage!
Andrew, I guess that the winter thing is something that you've worked out and it's great to know that even the PV can provide enough protection in cold weather. I'd suggest that the fact that you were moving helped a bit...don't forget that some of us who are members of the Recently Kilted haven't gone through the winter kilted yet and really don't know what to expect and might be spending more time standing on the platform waiting for the commuter train than we will striding across the frigid plains of wherever.
... Hopefully we'll follow your example but we may have to ease our way into this; making test runs (the quick trip to the home improvement center, the fast dash to the convenience store) to see how far we can "push the outside of the envelope".
best
AA
Andrew, you should also keep in mind that you're in Boston, and have acclimated to winters there. Our southern friends don't always react to cooler temperatures as well as we more northern folk do. Minimalistix is just looking for a kilt that will be warm by his standards.
Having said that - remember Jeff is on hiatus, so you'll want to consider something other than the flannel-lined PK for this winter.
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19th November 05, 11:30 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by auld argonian
...and Andrew Beecher is seven feet tall and has killed men by the hundreds...
Good-natured kidding accepted. Besides, I can't argue when you've described me to a "T". :grin:
 Originally Posted by auld argonian
don't forget that some of us [...] might be spending more time standing on the platform waiting for the commuter train than we will striding across the frigid plains of wherever.
 Originally Posted by Andrew Breecher
I've worn an Original Utilikilt (the lighter fabric kind) - along with traditional kilt hose - in sub-zero Fahrenheit temperatures. I've worn that outfit while just standing around waiting for the train.
I certainly didn't mean to sound dismissive in my original post. I just see over and over people questioning how warm the kilt is, and what they can wear with it to make it warmer. I was just trying to stress how warm the kilt already is and that, when worn with kilt hose and a warm enough coat, you don't really need lined kilts, underkilts, or longjohns.
Andrew.
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19th November 05, 02:30 PM
#5
When I'm cold I just throw on a nice tweed daywear jacket and a heavy tweed Inverness Cape. Usually by that time it doesn't matter how cold the temperature is outside, I'm warm as freshly baked bread under all the clothing.
Also, since I spend a considerable amount of time in a wheelchair I find that the longer length of the Inverness Cape is a real help in keeping frigid updrafts to a minimum.
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19th November 05, 09:10 AM
#6
It may or may not be your thing, but the Underkilt has been reviewed here and elsewhere on the board. (link to the site in second thread) It may take some of the itch factor out, especially in sensitive areas when going commando.
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