tartans

[filman]

Thanks for all the info. This is why I asked , when I was younger an older gent that was kilted told me not to get a tartan that was not of my clan.
As I am of Irish desent other than some county and national tartans, I do not know of many tartans that I can feel comfortable in. As a Marine I will be getting the Leatherneck tartan,as for other special tartans like the Black Watch I feel that I should not own or wear them for I have not earned the right. I do not know what Dutch tartans are. Agian thankyou for your info and for your help.

[highlander_Daz]

It used to be said it was bad luck to wear a Tartan thats not "yours" Being of Irish descent gives you a massive scope of designs. Black watch is commonly known as a "free" Tartan and can be worn be anyone. some Stuart Tartans have some sectarian issues attached to them and Celtic/Rangers Tartan would single you out for a "kicking" in some parts of the west side. My favourite "Free" Tartan is "Flower of Scotland"

here it is modelled by myself

[Sherry]

It used to be said it was bad luck to wear a Tartan thats not "yours" Being of Irish descent gives you a massive scope of designs. Black watch is commonly known as a "free" Tartan and can be worn be anyone. some Stuart Tartans have some sectarian issues attached to them and Celtic/Rangers Tartan would single you out for a "kicking" in some parts of the west side. My favourite "Free" Tartan is "Flower of Scotland"

here it is modelled by myself

I like it too, Daz. It was modeled after the Gunn Ancient tartan because that's what Roy Williamson wore.

Sherry

[Owl of Oban]

A good question and one that has about as many answers as respondents.

Several folks here have said it best, wear the tartan you like (as long as it's not proscribed, and most aren't) and make the effort to learn a bit about the family or region it represents.

My folk likely came from lowland Scotland, ended up in Virginia at the end of the 17th century and have no tartan of their own. I could wear general tartans and there are several I'd love to have.
However, I've chosen to have our own M.A.C. Newsome (http://albanach.org/) design a tartan for my surname to honor my ancestors. It will be a 'personal' tartan and as such will be available for any to wear. As the 'owner' of the tartan, I'd be honored if anyone had a kilt made in it and learned a bit about my family. I suspect most clan chiefs feel the same way.....but that's my opinion.

Enjoy!

[macwilkin]

I'm not sure where this idea that the Dutch Mackay tartan is for Dutch nobility only, or that it belongs to a Dutch branch of the clan alone. According to Phillip Smith and Gordon Teal's "District Tartans", The Dutch Mackay tartan was designed by one John Cargill for the Scottish Tartans Society in 1965 to honour Baron Aeneas Mackay, who was Prime Minister of the Netherlands in the 1880's. Baron Mackay was the grandfather of Lord Reay, who was the Chief of the Mackays. It was also designed in honour of the Mackay Regiment, which fought for the Dutch in the Thirty Year's War, and General Hugh Mackay, who was a general in the army of William of Orange. Baron Hugo Mackay was a Dutch Submarine commander during the Second World War.

Whilst the tartan was designed in honour of Dutch nobility, and the Mackays that served and in some cases immigrated to the Netherlands, no where is it implied that this is a restricted tartan to only members of the Dutch nobility or for Dutch Mackays only.

In a similar vein, the Prince of Orange tartan, is a commemorative tartan of an individual, in this case, William, Prince of Orange, and is not restricted to only the Dutch royal family. In fact, according to Zaczek's "World Tartans", it was designed in Canada and is a modern trade tartan for "clients with Scottish and Dutch connections".

There are a number of "personal" tartans of royal personages that are worn by anyone; for example, the Duke of Fife tartan has now become the Fife District tartan. The Earl of St. Andrew's tartan, which was designed for the Duke of Kent (and Earl of St. Andrew) in the 1930's has also become a district tartan as well.

Regards,

Todd

[Robin]

Good reading!

Thanks Cajunscot!

[The Wizard of BC]

And then,,,,

With all the new members I suppose we could start drumming up interest in having another run of the "Worlds first internet Tartan"

I'm talking of our own X Marks Tartan. (see the backgound wallpaper of this site) or Ron's (riverkilt) photo album.

Any takers????????

[mddock58]

I'd wear it!

[Wompet]

And then,,,,

With all the new members I suppose we could start drumming up interest in having another run of the "Worlds first internet Tartan"

I'm talking of our own X Marks Tartan. (see the backgound wallpaper of this site) or Ron's (riverkilt) photo album.

Any takers????????

Tempting ... make this into a new thread and see how many of us are interested. How many did it take for the first order?

[Robin]

And then,,,,

With all the new members I suppose we could start drumming up interest in having another run of the "Worlds first internet Tartan"

I'm talking of our own X Marks Tartan. (see the backgound wallpaper of this site) or Ron's (riverkilt) photo album.

Any takers????????

Make me an offer I can't refuse