UK Comparison, Workman's to Survival

**KiltedBishop** · 1st October 05, 08:14 PM

oh didn't think of that. I did do a search though and I actually asked Otto about it when I was at UK HQ and he seemed a bit sheepish about it. I can understand they don't want to do a massive recall on all the kilts with that problem. I can only imagine what the turn around time would be if they had to cut their fabric by hand. Just a consideration to have when buying I suppose. I love my UKs though...

Cheers

**motorman4life** · 2nd October 05, 02:16 PM

I talked with Steven about the drill hole problem when I visited UK HQ in August. He was up front about it.. the drilling is a necessary evil and a part of the fabrication process. He didn't make any apologies for it. It is just something you need to be aware of when purchasing, preferably in person. I have 4 UKs, all size 42, and I cannot find any drill holes of consequence on mine. Maybe I got lucky. I know people that have bought UKs from their scratch and dent rack that had obvious drill holes and they have been happy with their purchase, albeit discounted.

**Kid Cossack** · 8th October 05, 10:02 AM

Many thanks, gents!

**cjbass** · 30th November 05, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Iolaus

Maybe it's just the different construction of the pockets and the added slash pockets, but the Survival seems to be "blousier" (is that a word?); it doesn't have the same hanging characteristics as the Workman. I don't know; maybe I haven't broken it in enough, but I prefer the Workman.

The "blousy" feel probably has to do with where and how the cargo pockets are on the Survival vs the Workmans.

Since the Survival has slash pockets as well, the cargo pockets are mounted lower down the side than on the Workmans, below the opening for the slash pockets.

I'll wager that if you take the pockets off the Survival for a day, and then switch to the Workman's, they won't feel so different. (Except for the rigidity of the fabric.) I find having the pockets lower down makes me feel like my thighs are bigger... and maybe that is the "blousy" feeling you are talking about.

A possibility...?
- CJ

**Iolaus** · 30th November 05, 09:42 PM

Could be; recently, I took the pockets off and it seemed to lie a bit flatter - I still prefer the Workman though.

**Riverkilt** · 1st December 05, 07:30 PM

I love them both, have three of each. On a trip "down south" but "up the mountain" to Flagstaff. Brought all three Workman's with me to wear. Warm, more of a "funky" look in a college town. Found a kelly green hooded sweat on sale at Northern Arizona University bookstore that looks great with the caramel workman's...kelly green and saffron (caramel). And another hooded sweat in chocolate brown that looks great with my chocolate workman's. A good trip except for haveing to sit through hours of company training. But if you're gonna sit, nothing beats a kilt. Passed out some cards to curious coworkers.

Big thing for me with the Survival is being able to remove the cargo pockets for a "mocker" look...more "mocker" colors. Or to be able to switch the pockets for a contrasting look, like tan cargo pockets on the basil Survival.

I think someone pointed out that you can also snap survival cargo pockets to the snaps on the workman's.

I enjoy all my UKs, but the workman's and survival IIs get the most wear from me. They're sorta like....(gasp)...jeans.....

Ron
From Flagstaff, AZ tonight.

**KiltedCodeWarrior** · 1st December 05, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

...Big thing for me with the Survival is being able to remove the cargo pockets for a "mocker" look...more "mocker" colors. Or to be able to switch the pockets for a contrasting look, like tan cargo pockets on the basil Survival.

I think someone pointed out that you can also snap survival cargo pockets to the snaps on the workman's.

I enjoy all my UKs, but the workman's and survival IIs get the most wear from me. They're sorta like....(gasp)...jeans.....

Ron, never thought about trading the pockets (although I don't have a survival or workman's (yet)), but I bet it looks great!

And I'll bet that your survival and workman's are much more comfortable than jeans, and will last a lot longer. I took your comment to mean "the comfortable garment I am mostly likely to throw on for just about any occasion that is not formal!".

**Riverkilt** · 2nd December 05, 07:53 PM

Stopped off at a state government office in Flagstaff on my way home. Was wearing my new chocolate workman's. Two ladies in the office went ga-ga over the kilt, asked all sorts of questions. One lady thought it was Carhardt material...said its probably the same stuff...told her about the caramel being a more common Carhardt color...they wanted to know about the kilt hose and flashes too....yup, they work with UKs too.

Found out on the drive home that the chocolate UK is the PERFECT kilt to wear if you're gonna drive and eat a chocolate ice cream bar at the same time...drips don't show :-P

Ron