I'm finally posting my pic

**GMan** · 1st December 05, 10:04 PM

My prejudice is showing, as I think that the scout uniform does look better with a kilt than shorts, and Tom showed us a protoype of the new scout uniform. Well done.

**Wompet** · 2nd December 05, 12:19 AM

And here's another vote for green undershirt to match the uniform socks. Too bad you didn't have one of the old olive uniform shirts - no one would have even noticed the undershirt.

As for the rise, I would extend it at most an inch, so it would be at the traditional waist (it looks halfway between the traditional and "modern" waists right now) and add a belt - either a regular kilt belt with a scouting themed buckle, or an olive drab web belt to match the uniform socks (and undershirt!).

Otherwise, it's a good look. And now I'm going to e-mail this page to one of my college roommates, an active Eagle Scout who I'm surprised never tried this himself (to my knowledge).
(Of course, the one troop we worked with in college - this might not have been a good idea.)

**Graham** · 2nd December 05, 02:44 AM

KCW, you were about to disagree with Hamish on colour?? are you mad??;)

Thanks Hamish for some good tips.

You look fine Tom, nice collection of badges you have there!

**tomcherv** · 2nd December 05, 05:59 AM

Thanks for the comments everyone.

Yes, the hose are the official Scout Hose, so that's why I wore them. When I wore this kilt the other day, I did match the hose to my shirt color. I guess I really wasn't thinking about the undershirt. I usually wear the blue one since it matches the shoulder loops on the uniform.

Even though I originally made this kilt over 11 years ago, I've only worn it 3 times (twice within the past 2 weeks). I will wear it more frequently than before.

As a side note, I'm looking into taking the Wood Badge leadership course. Once a scouter completes the course, they become eligible for an associate (non-voting) membership in the Clan McLaren Society of North America. I think I'll spend my $10 a year to create that particular Scottish connection.

Happy kilting everyone.

**Riverkilt** · 2nd December 05, 07:38 PM

A lad who can sew up a kilt! Is this a great board or what!?

Good job, ya look great, nice you're taking the suggestions in the manner they're meant.

I love the look of a uniform top with a kilt....hence my recent proclivity for War 2 reproduction jackets....Trying to remember my scouting days...do you have an official scout jacket? Might look good too.

Wonder why there's no official Boy Scout tartan....or is there....?

Ron

**KiltedCodeWarrior** · 2nd December 05, 08:32 PM

Ron, there really should be given scouting's founding in the UK. I seem to recall a thread on scouting and kilts earlier. Will try to find it and post a link.

**Rob** · 3rd December 05, 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

Wonder why there's no official Boy Scout tartan....or is there....?

Ron

Ron,

There is an official Scottish Scout's Tartan:-

http://www.tartans.scotland.net/tart...?tartan_id=517

Rob

**Riverkilt** · 3rd December 05, 10:36 AM

Thanks Rob,

Is this a great board or what!?

Put that tartan on your wishlist Tomcherv

Or are Scottish Scouts different than Boy Scouts....?

Ron

**way2fractious** · 20th January 06, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by tomcherv

Thanks for the comments everyone.

Yes, the hose are the official Scout Hose, so that's why I wore them. ...

As a side note, I'm looking into taking the Wood Badge leadership course. ...

Once a scouter completes the course, they become eligible for an associate (non-voting) membership in the Clan McLaren Society of North America. ...

Since I'm new to this board, I just picked up this thread, which has been of great interest to me for some years. For the group's consideration are two relevant links.

The first one is a link to the Policy Organisation and Rules (POR) of the United Kingdom scouting organization, particularly the section that deals with the wearing of the kilt or tartan as part of the uniforming for Scottish or Irish scouts. This is their current rule.

http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/library/...2005/10_17.htm

The second link is to a post on Scout-L, a list server, several years ago. The poster refers to a conversation made by a MacLaren regarding the MacLaren tartan, for which no further referance was cited. (Who is the resident historian or reference librarian on this board?)

http://listserv.tcu.edu/cgi-bin/wa.e...-3&S=&P=136358

My congratulations to Tomcherv on his signing up for Wood Badge in May, as he posted in another thread. Boy Scouts of America (BSA) will train you strictly on uniforming, for you to use as an essential element in the training of boys in a unit, whether it be a pack, troop, team, or crew. The spirit of uniformity is to erase class distinctions of any kind.

The green socks with red tops are currently official uniforming for use with scout shorts. A T-shirt showing is not part of the official field uniform and will be discouraged (try a scoop neck undershirt). Differing neckerchiefs can be adopted by differing units, but should be uniform within the unit.

The British rule on kilts and tartans has, in practice, created a second UK uniform, but it has no bearing on the BSA uniform. Adoption of kilt wearing in the BSA is a silly, sentimental, personal revision of the BSA rules... but it's a silly, sappy departure which I have happily made.

Lastly, I have been a member of Clan MacLaren of North America for a couple years now and have had great fun with them at gatherings. To honor the MacLaren/Scouting connection their by-laws set up a special non-voting membership class. Wood Badgers are encouraged to wear their scout shirts and MacLaren kilts to participate in the clan marches. In fact, last summer I represented the clan in the kilted mile at the Woodland, CA games. (Not bad for a guy over 50.) See, more great opportunities to wear your kilt.

Kilt on!!!

Mark Twain wrote in Tom Sawyer, "Often, the less there is to justify a traditional custom the harder it is to get rid of it."