Wannabe Scot

**Valencian Kilted** · 18th December 05, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by highlander_Daz

I apologise, I didnt mean the european people I meant the european parlement, only yesterday Blair surrended billions of our rebate, how do you feel about losing the pesata and haveing a euro instead is Juan carlos on the Euro?

I apologise to my european friends -you know what i meant.

One of the things that I like from being pro-european, is that wherever I go through the whole union, I feel as if I could forget the differences that made us all fight for centuries one against the others. It's now difficult to imagine that a war could start between France, Germany, UK or Spain,.... even for Gibraltar!

As you say, it seems that the european parliament is sooo far from all of us, that it remembers us the image of an absolute king ruling over europe and "asking the menu for us", but you must remember that at the parliament are represented the people we voted to be there, (and that an abstention is not useful at all at the time of protesting!)

You are afraid of the possibility of loosing your "national heritage" or your national feeling in order to be absorbed by an european tutti-frutti, but Europe is much more similar to Spain than to France. I mean: in France the only language you can find usually on the streets or at schools is the french, and the national feeling is strongly french, except for a real minority of nationalist feeling on the French Baskian Country, Corsica and quite slightly in Brittany. In Spain we have 5 languages, with 17 regional parliaments (the same kind as Scotland, but with more power I must say), and at schools and on the street of those 5 authonomic communities where you can find a language different from spanish, it will be easy to find speakers of galego, baskian, catalan or valencian. At my hometown maybe a 90% of population speaks daily in valencian, and it's even promoted. We are spaniards, but more or less, we all feel strongly our different roots. There's not any european more individualistic than a spaniard, believe me. We can easily be happy acting as stupids but doing it at our own.

I'm not afraid of being european, and yes, I know that maybe Spain will loose part of its power of decission, but starting from the point that UK has a right that any other nation has (and that's the "British Check" as we call it here, I mean, that your country plays with different cards, but it was accepted by the rest of nations...) I think that you cannot be afraid at all regarding which be the scottish euro-future. Our main richness in Europe is our plurality, and the chance we have to share it.

I am spanish and proud of being it, but I'm also a "scottish wannabe", and I'd love to share my ideas and thoughts with you, as well as with all these wanderful tribe that we are all here. It would be a pleasure for me if you could feel the same.

ah! and here's our king Juan Carlos on our euro-coin:

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The spanish euros are dedicated to spanish monuments and different personalities, from the royal family or not, as the 10 cents coin, with Cervantes on it, etc,...I can say that I'm spanish because I'm valencian, and Valencia is part of Spain. On the same way I can say that I'm european because I'm a valencian spanish, and Spain is in Europe. And be sure that feeling european will not make me loose a portion of my roots fixation. The idea is not to put a wall against the loss of identity,... the idea is to offer and spread that identity and share it with you all,... even being a scottish "wannabe"!

.... and yes, I thought too much again!

sorry to all!

¡Salud!

T O N O

**Southern Breeze** · 18th December 05, 06:06 PM

I've been following this thread and it's been great. As I read,I can't help but think of the following joke. No offense is intended toward anyone.

A Scotsman & a Englishman are strolling along the beach when they find a lamp. They clean it up and out pops a genie.

"I'll give you each one wish for freeing me" says the genie.

The Englishman thinks then wishes. "I believe in an England for the English, I'm sick and tired of all these Scots coming into MY country. I wish for a huge wall around England - to keep the English in and the Scots out."

POOF and it's done.

The Scotsman thinks. "Genie?" he says "tell me about this wall". "Well" says the genie "it's 500 feet high, a third of a mile thick, nothing can get in and nothing can get out".

"OK" says the Scotsman "Fill it with water".

**Valencian Kilted** · 19th December 05, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by Southern Breeze

I've been following this thread and it's been great. As I read,I can't help but think of the following joke. No offense is intended toward anyone.

A Scotsman & a Englishman are strolling along the beach when they find a lamp. They clean it up and out pops a genie.

"I'll give you each one wish for freeing me" says the genie.

The Englishman thinks then wishes. "I believe in an England for the English, I'm sick and tired of all these Scots coming into MY country. I wish for a huge wall around England - to keep the English in and the Scots out."

POOF and it's done.

The Scotsman thinks. "Genie?" he says "tell me about this wall". "Well" says the genie "it's 500 feet high, a third of a mile thick, nothing can get in and nothing can get out".

"OK" says the Scotsman "Fill it with water".

lol,.... but now it comes the second part,... because now the english would say smthg like: and the genie filled the scottish side! (sooorry, I didn't wanted to say it but it was the joke!!! :mrgreen: )

omg,.... that was me defending the red coats? I must be spending too much time with my english friends here! I need to wear my kilt before it is too late!

¡Salud!

T O N O

**highlander_Daz** · 19th December 05, 04:57 AM

Well the US and Canada and many other countries do very well not being part of Europe, ist now a crime to sell things in pounds and ounces becasue of european law and britain pays 7 billion pounds a year to europe for nothing in return, anyway its getting political so Im saying nothing else about it.

**Mike1** · 19th December 05, 05:01 AM

Daz, thanks for recognizing that the thread is threatening to take a political turn. Let's steer the discussions back to the safer ground of history/heritage.