Not real kilts?

[Luke MacGillie]

Guys

I thought a "real" kilt was the double apron front and fully pleated across the back. Any thoughts?

Josh

Depends on what you consider traditional. The generaly accepted definition of traditional is doing something that was done by your grandparents.

If you go back to the 18th cent you will see both belted plaids and little kilts that were pleated all the way around.

If you were to show up wearing a fully pleated kilt at most events these days folks would ask why you were wearing a skirt.

Same with OMG, brass or gilt instead of silver for your formal attire. Its not "Traditional" in the conventional sense of the word, but perfectly ok if looking to a time prior to our grandparents generation.

[Pleater]

I will try to make a kilt out of anything - just about - bit of a Dwarfish attitude I've got (i.e. Pass me a bigger hammer)

I gave up on the 8 yard all cotton only because I could not push the needles through the layers without them bending - so it is now going to be made into two 4 yarders, the first is box pleated. OK it was a pair of curtains - but they really wanted to be kilts.

Kilts have - something. It stirs the blood and lifts the heel, puts a glint in the eye and a jaunt in the step.

A kilt is just not the same as a women's skirt - a woman in a 'proper' kilt is transvesturing (!?!) - but as long as it does not disrupt the traffic....

Pleater

[GlassMan]

I finally saw the most recent issue of the Scottish Banner. Did anyone else hear read Mac Newsome's excellent article on this topic?

[Beery]

In the opinion of one who is completely ignorant of such matters, I reckon that if it looks like a kilt, it's a kilt. The 'handsewn in Scotland' thing seems a bit silly to me. Now on the other hand, if anyone was to ask me about Yorkshire puddings, I can say with certainty (and only half-jokingly) that if it isn't baked by a person who was born in Yorkshire, it ain't a Yorkshire Pudding.

So I think there's a bit of national/regional pride coming into both of those equations. But one thing's for sure - my attitude about Yorkshire puddings isn't going to affect the taste of one that was baked by someone who has never set foot in Yorkshire, and I think a similar thing can be said about the kilt.

However, the use of so-called 'Yorkshire Pudding Mix' is insulting. If you must use a mix, it's better to do without.

[Graham]

Well my mum made good Yorkshire puddings, and she is from Liverpool, so bang goes that theory!!

[Beery]

Well my mum made good Yorkshire puddings, and she is from Liverpool, so bang goes that theory!!

Did you compare them to Yorkshire puddings made by a Yorkshireperson?

Anyway, the purist in me would argue that although they may indeed have been good, and they may well have even been puddings, for them to be 'Yorkshire' puddings, they have to be made by a Yorkshire person. The ingredients don't determine the pudding's county of origin - only the cook can imbue the pudding with its Yorkshireness. ;)

[arrogcow]

I Now on the other hand, if anyone was to ask me about Yorkshire puddings, I can say with certainty (and only half-jokingly) that if it isn't baked by a person who was born in Yorkshire, it ain't a Yorkshire Pudding.

Don't know if I have ever had one made by someone from Yorkshire, but I make the best I've ever had.

However, the use of so-called 'Yorkshire Pudding Mix' is insulting. If you must use a mix, it's better to do without.

I would agree with that whole heartedly. What's up with mixes for anything. I baked a cake the other day, and it took almost 2 min longer that it would have if I had used a mix. What a waste of time.

Adam

[Colin]

In the opinion of one who is completely ignorant of such matters, I reckon that if it looks like a kilt, it's a kilt. The 'handsewn in Scotland' thing seems a bit silly to me. Now on the other hand, if anyone was to ask me about Yorkshire puddings, I can say with certainty (and only half-jokingly) that if it isn't baked by a person who was born in Yorkshire, it ain't a Yorkshire Pudding.

So I think there's a bit of national/regional pride coming into both of those equations. But one thing's for sure - my attitude about Yorkshire puddings isn't going to affect the taste of one that was baked by someone who has never set foot in Yorkshire, and I think a similar thing can be said about the kilt.

However, the use of so-called 'Yorkshire Pudding Mix' is insulting. If you must use a mix, it's better to do without.

I actually used to think along the same lines. I mean I own 4 non-traditional tartan kilts (3 Bearkilts and 1 Canada Kilt). I wore all 4 of those kilts regularly and proudly. I thought they were great and "who needs to blow the cash on a traditional when I can get 2-4 more new style kilts for the same price?".

However a month ago I ordered a traditional handsewn 8 yard kilt from www.scottishkilts.net and I have to say that after wearing it only twice, I am never going back. While the price is a bit high the fit, weight, feel, and appearance of a traditional Scottish kilt can not be matched. I had heard the same thing myself from other members and always kind of blew it off. Now I know exactly what they were talking about. My 8-yard Bear kilt is a spectacular garment with a wonderful weight and swing to it, but even it pales in comparison.

So while some of us might not see the "value" or "use" or a true Scottish kilt, some of us that were introduced to kilt wearing by the new style kilts have seen the light and are now going for true quality* rather than quanity.

* The Bear kilts are a quality made garment, and one which I would still recommend to those that can handle the wait time. Bear makes a great kilt for casual wear. I am, however, selling the 8 yard Bear kilt (Royal Stewart) as well as my Canada Kilt (MacKenzie) and likely my dress sporran from Canada Kilt (with one of the kilts only).

[Iolaus]

I am, however, selling the 8 yard Bear kilt (Royal Stewart) as well as my Canada Kilt (MacKenzie) and likely my dress sporran from Canada Kilt (with one of the kilts only).

Come on! Don't tease us man! Have you posted in the "For Sale" section yet? What size? Picture? Which MacKenzie tartan? I found several.

[Colin]

Come on! Don't tease us man! Have you posted in the "For Sale" section yet? What size? Picture? Which MacKenzie tartan? I found several.

The kilts were both in the for sale section for some time. They are both bigger sizes, so you skinny lot will missed out