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    Unless it's some uniform requirement, I'd skip both the cummerbund and waistcoat, and just wear a nice, wide kilt belt with a waist plate.
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    I have seen a sash with the ends hanging down about 10" on the left side of the sparron ( the kind that wrap around 4 or 5 times then are tied),rather than a belt.
    With the rise of the kilt wouldent the cummerbun cover your belt? Try it see how it looks, maybe take a photo and post it and run see run a poll to see how others will like it.

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    No, I am not looking for an Air Force tartan cummerbund. A plain blue one is standard with this jacket.

    Filman,
    A belt isn't worn with a cummerbund.

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    I think a cummerbund might fulfil the same thing a belt normally does: separate the tartan from the plain colour of your shirt with a definite border. I would most definitely say if you wear a cummerbund, do not also wear a belt with your kilt (same rule, and same reason, as with a waistcoat).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Breecher
    I think a cummerbund might fulfil the same thing a belt normally does: separate the tartan from the plain colour of your shirt with a definite border. I would most definitely say if you wear a cummerbund, do not also wear a belt with your kilt (same rule, and same reason, as with a waistcoat).

    Andrew.
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    I'm can't imagine why a cummerbund would be necessary or desireable. My inclination would be to bite the bullet and get a waistcoast. I priced one (didn't buy it) last year at about the same cost as a pair of dress pants.


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    A cumberbund is designed to hide the gap between the top of ones pants and a short tuxedo jacket. Because a traditional kilt rides above the hips there should be no gap to hide.

    If you want to conform to the accepted rules of formal dress then you should wear a wide kilt belt with a dress buckle any time that you are not wearing a waistcoat. Remembver that with a kilt the belt is used only for decoation. It does not hold anything up.

    When I am dressed formally, ie black tie, I waer a Prince Charlie jacket and waistcoat, and aformal sporan with chain. I don't wear a belt. For semi-formal, which is much more common, I wear a kilt cut tweed jacket, formal kilt belt with silver buckle, and a semi-formal or casual sporan with either belt hangers or straps.

    As for hose use any color that you want but stay away from pure white unless you are a piper.

    By the way I refuse to wear those silly ghillie shoes. Instead I use a good pair of buckled dress shoes.

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    Navy Mess Dress has a cumberbund, but for formal dinner dress (white tie) there is a waistcoat. I don't know if the Air Force has a similar uniform item. At times when a kilt was worn with the Navy Mess Dress (In London and Scotland), a belt/buckle was worn instead of the cumberbund.

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    Naval Academy pipers wear their mess dress jacket with kilt, white shirt, tie, belt, sporran, etc. (no cumberbund). Here's a picture of one:
    http://www.usna.edu/Pipes/pages/Uniform/winter_pipe.htm

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    My sense is that cummerbunds are not as in fashion as they were in the 1980's and early 1990's. Guys aren't wearing them with tuxedoes as much as they were back then. They are not part of the traditional kilt ensemble.

    I don't think it is a good idea, at the current time, to wear a cummerbund with your kilt. Cummerbunds are not traditional and it they are not the current fashion. I think you are better off with a belt or a waistcoat. Leave the cummerbunds to the Air Force and to lounge acts.

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