Scots-Irish

[macwilkin]

I don’t think anyone has mentioned this yet, but I believe that the Scots were originally an Irish tribe that pushed into Pictish lands after the Romans moved out of Britain.

And, while I’m at it, weren’t the Bruce’s and Stuarts actually Normans?

http://www.clanhay.net/HISTORY/Normandy_Roots.php

Here's a good article about the Norman roots of many Scottish clans.

Cheers,

Todd

[Schultz]

My Scots-Irish ancestors were supposedly Hugenots. We're definitely sure the Gastons are French Hugenots who stopped in Scotland for a two generations before moving on to Ulster.

The Rossborughs, however, may or may not be Hugenot.

Regardless, my Scots-Irish roots are definitely French in origin, a little fact I like to confuse people with.

Genealogy is so neat.

[highlander_Daz]

Mc and Mac are both Scots prefixes, there is a myth that one is Scots and one is Irish -Nope Both are Scots it simply depended on how the registrar spells it

[macwilkin]

Mc and Mac are both Scots prefixes, there is a myth that one is Scots and one is Irish -Nope Both are Scots it simply depended on how the registrar spells it

Sometimes you will even see M'Donald, M'kenzie, etc. Another abbreviation variant! ;)

Cheers,

Todd

[Moosehead]

Mc and Mac are both Scots prefixes, there is a myth that one is Scots and one is Irish -Nope Both are Scots it simply depended on how the registrar spells it

Not quite so...both exist in "real" Irish surnames as well. As you know, it simply means "son of", whereas O' is "grandson of".

[Casey]

The Ulster Scots settled in Ontario, here in Canada, too. My mother was an Aikens (Gordon).

[djweso]

Mc and Mac are both Scots prefixes, there is a myth that one is Scots and one is Irish -Nope Both are Scots it simply depended on how the registrar spells it

I had no idea. Thanks. All of my genealogy information is second hand or hearsay at this point. (ie what my mother told me). Its really great to learn all of this.

[Moosehead]

djweso,
my previous:

Not quite so...both exist in "real" Irish surnames as well. As you know, it simply means "son of", whereas O' is "grandson of".

[KiltedKnight]

I have a good friend by the name of O'Brien who is originally from the Philly area of Pennsylvania. In our circle of friends came another fellow by the name of Brien, (These are last names), and according to the both of them they claim that since Mr. Brien had lost the 'O' from his name somewhere along the away that this was because someone in his family had been a horse thief. Now I don't know what to believe, anyone know the truth?

Chris.

[macwilkin]

I have a good friend by the name of O'Brien who is originally from the Philly area of Pennsylvania. In our circle of friends came another fellow by the name of Brien, (These are last names), and according to the both of them they claim that since Mr. Brien had lost the 'O' from his name somewhere along the away that this was because someone in his family had been a horse thief. Now I don't know what to believe, anyone know the truth?

Chris.

More likely it was changed so it wouldn't look and sound so "Irish", either by his relative, or by the immigration official.

Cheers,

Todd