5 People You Meet in Heaven

**bubba** · 14th March 06, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

I'm wearing one of my favourite pair today: some LL Bean olive cord trousers which are some of the most comfortable I have ever owned.

CORD???? Good Grief! I won't wear that stuff. I'm STILL haunted by the noise they make while walking when I was a kid. Frightful.

**mddock58** · 14th March 06, 08:30 AM

The sound always reminds me of the sound Bill Cosby made for Noah sawing the logs...........zwooo bahhhhh..........zwoo bahhhhh

**macwilkin** · 14th March 06, 08:32 AM

Make fun all you want, but they are still darn comfortable! :mrgreen:

T.

**Ugly Bear** · 14th March 06, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

To be quite honest, I'm not big on this whole unbifurcated thing. ... I'm not much of a "contemporary kilt" person either. The concept just doesn't appeal to me.

Okay, it looks like that went over like a lead balloon. I'm 0 for 800 million here. What am I doing wrong? Can anyone else phrase it better? I've got less than 7 years here to fine-tune the message and get it out to the free world.

**UmAnOnion** · 14th March 06, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by bubba

CORD???? Good Grief! I won't wear that stuff. I'm STILL haunted by the noise they make while walking when I was a kid. Frightful.

I am with you there Bubba! I wont even look at ANYTHING corduroy for that reason. Plus cords are notorious for picking up lint and being hotter than hell. I have read the high praise the advocates of the new UK cord kilts BUT they still scare me.

Originally Posted by Ugly Bear

Okay, it looks like that went over like a lead balloon. I'm 0 for 800 million here. What am I doing wrong? Can anyone else phrase it better? I've got less than 7 years here to fine-tune the message and get it out to the free world.

Lead by example my good man - that's often the best way. Just keep wearing your kilts at every available opportunity and in ways that show the uneducated that they are viable alternatives to the dreaded trousers and slowly you will win them over. Some folks respond better to a softer sell than others. It also must be said that some wont respond no matter what approach you try - for them, its best to just to let them be and to turn your attentions to others who might be more receptive to your offering/suggestions. Kudos on the quest good sir!

**Angus** · 14th March 06, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

My next kilt will be one of Matt's, since I like the idea of the historical box-pleated kilt, again, as a nice alternative to the 8 yard traditional.

Really, what tartan?

Once you recieve one of the 4 yarders you may change your opinion entirely.
With the lighter weight, and the box pleats you really dont need to "worry"(not that you do) about messing the pleats up, ruining the pressing, or having to carry eight yards of wool around with you all day.Very comfy, and very low maintanance(sp?).

**macwilkin** · 14th March 06, 09:26 AM

Lead by example my good man - that's often the best way. Just keep wearing your kilts at every available opportunity and in ways that show the uneducated that they are viable alternatives to the dreaded trousers and slowly you will win them over. Some folks respond better to a softer sell than others. It also must be said that some wont respond no matter what approach you try - for them, its best to just to let them be and to turn your attentions to others who might be more receptive to your offering/suggestions. Kudos on the quest good sir!

I hope you are not implying that I am "uneducated" because I am not a full-time kilt wearer and a trouser-wearer.

T.

**Iolaus** · 14th March 06, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Ugly Bear

Okay, it looks like that went over like a lead balloon. I'm 0 for 800 million here. What am I doing wrong? Can anyone else phrase it better? I've got less than 7 years here to fine-tune the message and get it out to the free world.

Dude!! One person will not change a culture! All we can really do is lead by example, and hope enough follow to create some waves. It's all about the ripple effect.

I had an eloquent answer, yesterday, to Colin's original complaint about being picked on, but my computer locked up yesterday and I didn't feel like typing it all again. Essentially, he, and others, wear the equivalent of fine suits, while we wear jeans. We both represent examples of non-costume wear, but you and I advocate casual wear, while they advocate formal wear.

And, for the record, I am also an occassional wearer, the kilts are in rotation with the rest of the shorts and slacks in my wardrobe.

**macwilkin** · 14th March 06, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Angus

Really, what tartan?

Once you recieve one of the 4 yarders you may change your opinion entirely.
With the lighter weight, and the box pleats you really dont need to "worry"(not that you do) about messing the pleats up, ruining the pressing, or having to carry eight yards of wool around with you all day.Very comfy, and very low maintanance(sp?).

My traditional is from Hector Russell. I've never had any of the problems you describe because it is so well-made. The pleats hold very well, even after sitting down. Wool is very durable. The kilt really isn't that hot or heavy, but I'm used to wearing wool in the summer thanks to reenacting! :mrgreen:

My reason for wanting one of Matt's kilt is for it's historical aspects.

The tartan will most likely be the Iowa State Tartan, although the MacWilliam/Williamson tartan is very tempting!

Cheers,

Todd

**macwilkin** · 14th March 06, 09:36 AM

I had an eloquent answer, yesterday, to Colin's original complaint about being picked on, but my computer locked up yesterday and I didn't feel like typing it all again. Essentially, he, and others, wear the equivalent of fine suits, while we wear jeans. We both represent examples of non-costume wear, but you and I advocate casual wear, while they advocate formal wear.

I disagree. A traditional kilt can be worn "casually" as well as "formally". That is why they are so versitile. I wear my traditional "casually" (a la LL Bean and Woolrich) to games and other functions all the time. You can't really compare a traditional to a suit because of that very reason.

T.