Argyll Jackets

[McRod]

I am thinking of purchasing two Argyll jackets,1 tweed and 1 black, from scottishthemes.com Have any one used this company, if so what was the service like. I have never bought clothing over the net before and they seem'd to have what i need at a resonable price, [of the rack, but thats ok] even cheaper than here in Australia [ imported or made to measure ]the 2 jackets will cost $666.80au, if you have any other sugestions as where i can go shopping, i would be grateful for them :-D

[McRod]

P.S. I dont understand the sizing, 38 short, 38 regular. Helpings please

[porrick]

P.S. I dont understand the sizing, 38 short, 38 regular. Helpings please

I believe short/regular refers to length of sleeves. Beware, though: you need to check a conversion table for sizes (just to be on the safe side)

In Norway I wear jacket size 56, but ordering from the UK (United Kingdom, not the other abbreviation used by this forum...) I take size 46 (!!)

Pop in to a men's clothing store and have the vital measurements taken - and try on jacket sizes to find out what is comfortable - a regular tuxedo/suit jacket works fine for trying out sizes.

[ByDand]

McRod, The S, R & L on the jacket size indicate the length of the sleeve. For example, I stand about 6' and my chest is 42". My sleeve length for my dress shirts is 34-35. When I order a jacket I order a 42L. Check your sleeve length and let them know or have a tailor do the measurement for you. Good luck wtih the jackets.

[arrogcow]

scottishthemes.com and scottishkilts.net are both owned by the same parent company. .net has the argyle slightly cheaper this week, so you may want to buy it there

[Moosehead]

McRod,

the number indicates your chest size, in inches. Simply convert to centimetres. Multiply inches by 2.54. As mentioned by others, S, R and L refer to sleeve length. Most take a Regular, over 6 feet normally a Long, under about 5'5" (165cm) a Short.

[McRod]

Thanks guys, seems i need a 38 regular.

[RockyR]

I can't describe how to do the long/short/regular bit, but I can give you the way to measure for the "number part"

It's MUCH better to have someone else measure you... You can do the following WITH a t shirt on.

Put your hands up and have someone wrap a tape measure around your chest right over your nipples (generally the widest part) and around the back. Put your arms down with the tape measure still around your chest. Take that measurement and add 2 inches.

Keep your arms down and have someone wrap the tape measure around your arms AND chest at the widest point. Take that number and subtract 6 inches.

The 2 numbers you have SHOULD be within 1 or 2 inches of each other. Take the bigger number and that's the size jacket you take.

i.e... I measure a (40 +2 =) 42 around my chest and (50 -6 =) 44 around my chest AND arms. I would take a 44 Regular.

This is how measurements are taken at "After Hours" tuxedo rental here and that's how we take them in the shop. It seems to work very well!

Hope this helps!

[Rick]

The long, regular and short measurements apply not only to the sleeve length but also to the jacket length. The tailor will measure the jacket length form the nape of the neck to the bottom hem, i.e., down the back from the base of the folded over collar to the bottom hem. From what I have read, the jacket length is to come to the fell of the kilt. If it is longer, it interferes with the motion of the pleats.

To get these measurements to work on a jacket may require some tailoring. For example, I am 6'1" tall. However, I have long legs and a short torso. My sleeve length for a jacket is 26 in. Regular size jackets which come to the fell or ever-so-slightly above it, typically do not have sufficiently long sleeves. If I get a long, the sleeves may be a tad too long, however, the jacket will hang too low below the fell. So, I have a choice, get the regular and have the sleeves let down. Or get a long and have the length taken up and the sleeves shortened a bit. I have done both. The former is easier if there is sufficient fabric in the sleeves and the lining. However, note that if the jacket is vintage, pressing out the old crease may leave a mark. The latter approach is harder to do, but does not require pressing out a crease in a way that will show. The bottom line is, if you want the measurements to work out, have a tailor measure you and then communicate this information to the jacket maker so that the jacket requiring the lease tailoring can be obtained.

[McRod]

Well, i did a bit more internet searching and narrowed it down a bit, lo and behold ,i found a kilt maker here in Aussie, up in Queensland, whose prices are competetive with some of the overseas company's, and they do made to measure for a reasonable price. So i will give him a go. Thanks guys for your help anyway.