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    Can someone explain what this is about, please.
    If the letter was from the King of France..... why should it go back to Scotland? What am I missing??

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    It refers to a letter that was in the possession of Sir William Wallace at the time of his capture, thats held at Kew, its not really a safe conduct letter its from the king of france to his agents in Rome, the letter mentions Wallace by name "'William le Waleis', knight of Scotland" and the fact that Wallace had it on him when captured really does make for a strong case for being on display in Scotland.
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    so the letter mentions William Wallace, of Scotland so why should it be returned to Scotland? Still don't understand.
    Of course it might be nice if it was in Scotland but why " should it be returned"?
    Perahps I;m being very slow here, but on that basis all sorts of things should be returned just because someone had either a mention or temporary possession of an object. If the letter was from a French King to an Italian Agent mentioning a Scottish man, I can't see that it should automatically go to a museum in Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulhenry
    Can someone explain what this is about, please.
    If the letter was from the King of France..... why should it go back to Scotland? What am I missing??
    See this article, paulhenry:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4385544.stm

    As for the King of France, remember that Scotland & France were allies in "The Auld Alliance" against a common enemy, England.

    I hope this clears things up.

    Cheers,

    Todd

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    That was a great article, Todd... thanks for sharing!

    #780 here.

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    thanks for the link, interseting reading, but I still don't understand why it should be returned to Scotland, as I said before it might be nice to have in Scotland, but it hardly being returned!

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    It was in Wallaces possesion when he was captured, The letter was of some significance to Wallace, so why not have it on display rather than in some archive?

    "return" to give back, Wallace was captured in Scotland, and carted off to England along with the letter, the letter was in Wallaces possession hence that was "captured" as well -please can we have our letter back please!

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    As I said, it might be nice to have it in Scotland... but...
    anyway what has this to do with Kilts? it's not as if they were much in evidence in 1305!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulhenry
    it's not as if they were much in evidence in 1305!!
    Nope, and I don't wear a kilt either.

    I wear a breacan feile, which is supposed to have been around then. Due to a lack of drawings/archaelogical evidence no-one is sure about the dressing trends of Wallace's time. The breacan feile was the clothing of Ancient Celts (and latterly picts) in Alba, and outlawed after the failed uprising. The kilt has evolved now into what it is, and some would say (ie me) it has evolved even further by going plain (no tartans) and gaining pockets .

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulhenry
    As I said, it might be nice to have it in Scotland... but...
    We understand your position concerning the return of the Safe Conduct Letter.

    Quote Originally Posted by paulhenry
    anyway what has this to do with Kilts? it's not as if they were much in evidence in 1305!!
    And that is why this topic was appropriately placed in the Off Topic section. Every now and again, things work as they are meant to work.

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