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    Quote Originally Posted by Pour1Malt
    it is no uncommon in Scotland tae weir yur sporran through yur belt loops alaing with yur belt....
    Gee, I've been doing something correct all this time and I didn't know it.
    "A day spent in the fields and woods, or on the water should not count as a day off our allotted number upon this earth."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerMc
    Gee, I've been doing something correct all this time and I didn't know it.

    me too!

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    The two loops on the back of some kilts are sporran loops. Not belt loops. The belt should not hold the kilt up, the straps should do the work. The belt is decorative only. If your kilt is slipping down, cinch in the straps. If you're at the last hole, it may be time to have your kilt re-sized.
    Then insure your wearing the kilt in the proper position. The top straps should be at your natural waist. Or about one inch above your naval.

    To better hold the sporran in place the first thing to do is to get rid of the chain and switch to a strap. Then remove the sporran loops and relocate them further forward. Approximatly one inch behind the edges of the apron. This will give almost the same downward angle as the belt hangers you mentioned without pulling the belt down.

    The last thing is to tighten up on the sporran strap till the sporran is just barely below the belt buckle. Not the book advertised position, but for "Gentlemen of Substance" It will keep the bunching to a minimum as it keeps the sporran on your belly, and not hanging below, which causes the bunching of the aprons.

    By wearing the kilt in the proper location and keeping the sporran on your belly, not under it, everything will hang free and straight. This also gives a very slimming effect.

    It is only a Contemporary Kilt with pockets instead of sporran and a sloping waisband that can be worn under the belly. And even then not successfully.

    Don't believe me,,,,try this trick. Wrap a bath towel around yourself. No belt, no straps. Just a single tuck at the waist. You'll find only when it is worn above the naval will it stay on without you holding it.
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    Freddie writes:
    I recently bought an American designed 'Craigie sporran sling' which snaps onto the belt either side of the buckle and alows the sporran to hang free at the correct hight. The only trouble here is that if the sporran is too heavy it pulls the belt down at the front which again looks a mess (although of course wearing the belt tighter would help).
    This problem is, I think, where the sporran slings really show their usefullness. Some men, with waists much larger than their hips, really have a problem with any kind of sporran belt. No matter how tightly you try and arrange things, the sporran naturally wants to find its way south, and you end up with what you describe -- your kilt bunched up and looking horrible.

    The sporran slings are a godsend, as they keep the sporran in its place and don't cause the kilt to bunch.

    If you are having the problem you describe, with your sporran pulling your belt down and giving you problems, one of two things could be wrong. 1) You could simply be carrying too much in your sporran. If you have one of the larger types and have stuffed it full, I could see this happening. But remember, you are not a kangaroo. You don't really need to take everything and the kitchen sink with you. Wallet. Car keys. Perhaps a cell phone. If you are hauling around more than what would easily fit in your pants pockets, get a knapsack or something. Don't try and keep it all in your sporran.

    2) Second problem, and more likely the case, is that you simply don't have your kilt belt on tight enough. I see enough men walking around with their kilt belts slipping down *without* anything hanging from them. You don't want to cut off your circulation, but it should be tight enough to stay in place. If you have a problem with the standard kilt belt (by which I mean the ones that utilize the clip on rectangualr buckles) you might try a belt with an open buckle that you can really cinch up to get a proper fit.

    James writes:
    Your kilt should have two sets of loops-broad ones for a belt, and small ones for the sporran.
    I've never seen a kilt with two sets of loops on it. I've seen kilts with no loops at all. And I've seen kilts with loops in the back, which as Steve has already pointed out are meant for the sporran strap, not the belt. Though people today typically use them for their belt. But I've never seen a kilt with more than one set of loops or keepers. So that's a new one on me.

    But I don't think using the loops in the back or not is going to really fix Freddie's problem here. I've seen guys shaped such that just wasn't helping. The sporran slings are definitely the best answer to this problem I have found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC
    l.

    To better hold the sporran in place the first thing to do is to get rid of the chain and switch to a strap.

    The last thing is to tighten up on the sporran strap till the sporran is just barely below the belt buckle. Not the book advertised position, but for "Gentlemen of Substance" It will keep the bunching to a minimum as it keeps the sporran on your belly, and not hanging below, which causes the bunching of the aprons.

    By wearing the kilt in the proper location and keeping the sporran on your belly, not under it, everything will hang free and straight. This also gives a very slimming effect.
    Very sound advice!

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    [B]Paul Murray[/B]
    Kilted in Detroit! Now that's tough.... LOL

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    Thanks for the advice guys. I do find that my Sporran sling is the best idea. Here's another thing I've thought about and am going to try it. I hang my kilts on my wife's skirt hangers, the ones with clips at either end, and I'm going to remove the clips from the bar and use them to clip the sporran chains to the top of the kilt so that the chains hang from just in front of my hips. This should make the chains appear more authentic. Anyway I'll give it a try and let you know how it turns out.
    Last edited by freddie; 11th July 06 at 11:10 PM. Reason: Amendment
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddie
    Thanks for the advice guys. I do find that my Sporran sling is the best idea. Here's another thing I've thought about and am going to try it. I hang my kilts on my wife's skirt hangers, the ones with clips at either end, and I'm going to remove the clips from the bar and use them to clip the sporran chains to the top of the kilt (I'm looking on ebay for a big enough leather sporran strap, Bauhaus Boy is selling them) so that the chains hang from just in front of my hips. This should make the chains appear more authentic. Anyway I'll give it a try and let you know how it turns out.
    Didn't someone here make a belt with slots cut into it just above the front of the hips, to hang his sporran from? If you can find that picture, it might give you some ideas.

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    Iolaus,

    I believe that I have the belt you mention however, I did not post the picture of it originally; that was done by Tartan Hiker who, BTW, made the belt in question. I do have a picture of the belt but don't know how to post a picture to the forum.

    You are correct in your description, the waist belt is 2.5'' and has slots just in front of each hip thru which a belt is placed and the sporran attached. The belt holding the sporran is adjustable so proper sporran height can be made. The dreaded, "Droopy Sporran Syndrome" is eleminated as there is no belt around the body holding the sporran which can slide down. The waist belt can be worn without the sporran belt and when I have done so, I've never had anyone notice the slots.

    All in all, a nice arrangement and very well made by Tartan Hiker who is a great person with whom to do business; consider me a very satisfied customer.

    Bob

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