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    It's good that Reggie gets to wear his kilts to work on some occassions. This solution however points out the problem of couching kilt-wearing as a cultural rather than a rights issue.

    If a kilt is only an expression of culture, then it's appropriate to limit it's wearing to cultural events. If a kilt is just any other form of men's clothing, then there cannot be any restrictions on wearing them other than safety.

    We already have the legal right to wear our kilts to work. Women won that war for themselves and the laws of our land dictate equal treatment of both genders.

    And yet there's risk involved in excersizing that right since employment is "at will" and employers can release any employee with or without cause.

    Reggie stuck his neck out as far as he felt it was safe for him and his family.

    It took considerable guts for him to take things as far as he did.

    So, who's next?

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    Congratulation on a positive meeting. I have been there over a beard in the 70's and it was with Exxon. I still have a beard and I did while I worked there for 7yrs. Consider the meeting a start and keep on smiling

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    "couching"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rigged
    It's good that Reggie gets to wear his kilts to work on some occassions. This solution however points out the problem of couching kilt-wearing as a cultural rather than a rights issue.

    If a kilt is only an expression of culture, then it's appropriate to limit it's wearing to cultural events. If a kilt is just any other form of men's clothing, then there cannot be any restrictions on wearing them other than safety.
    Rigged,

    I'm not sure I understand your use of the term "couching" in this post -- I do hope you are not referring to those of us who wear our kilts as symbols of our heritage here -- for those of us who do, the kilt is a cultural issue, and I would point out, does not necessarily limit wearing to "cultural events" -- my employer is aware of my kilt wearing as a symbol of my cultural heritage, and I have never been told that I could only wear my kilt on "cultural days".

    I do hope I misunderstood you. I personally never want the kilt to become "just another form of men's clothing", because of what it stands for for me.

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    Todd

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    It's a Funny World

    Thanks so much everyone for the information on the best days to wear a kilt in celebration of Scottish heritage. I now have plenty of days to allow me to wear the kilt, but I'll start out slow, probably once every two months for awhile, see how it goes, then ramp it up.
    I agree that it is totally unfair, and even absurd, to have to ask permission to wear a mans garment. Absolutely! My intent at starting off with an apology was to appear humble, and lessen any perception of threat. I took my wifes suggestion to project the innocence of lamb to heart here (forget the cunning of ten foxes. I'm lucky if I can summon the wits of a small muskrat). Even though, inside, I was fairly seething with contempt. Trying to open a closed mind is very much like brain surgery. Better to make small opening and inject what can be tolerated, than to bash it open with a sledge hammer and lose any chance for recovery afterwards.
    Life is full of compromise. Even though I live in the country, I'm only 1.9 miles away from my work! I'm also overpaid. Really. Sounds odd for someone to say that doesn't it? I make a good living, and this company retrained me in my profession after being gone for two years in the military, when no-one else wanted anything to do with me. So I feel alot of loyalty to this company, and gratefulness. My life is blessed in a countless number of ways. I really don't want to move, or drive any longer distance to work, and I love the people I work with. The point being, how far do I really want to push my principles? I guess as far as I need to in order to maintain my self respect. We all have our own personal code that we live by. I couldn't keep my self respect without at least facing the issue, and trying to gain a foothold. That's about as far as I was willing to risk my living conditions. Do I want the kilt, or the job? And who else is going to unwillingly and helplessly suffer because I decided I want to stand on a principle, no matter how right I know I am? I can keep the job, and still achieve my goal of "kilt freedom" by setting my course on another tack, and surviving to fight another day. There have been times when I have stood up on a principle, wishing later on, that I had sat down on my own stool. It's a funny world we live in.
    I'm happy to have won this small victory (without everyones help I don't think I would have). As my wife mentioned,
    "If you're going to conquer the mountain, you gotta start out with a freakin' toe hold."
    As an aside, I do plan to educate myself more on Scottish history, and read the book "Who Moved My Cheese?". I'm enrolled at the University and will be graduating next December, so I'm already doing alot of study and reading. Imagine, a college degree at, let's see, sheesh, I'll be 57! It's a funny world indeed! You can bet that I'll be wearing cap and gown...and kilt.

    Highest regards and a thousand thanks to all!

    Reggie

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    I am not slain
    I'll just lie here and bleed awhile
    Then rise up and fight again
    Last edited by Reggie; 2nd April 06 at 09:19 PM.

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