And they call themselves men ...

[JackK]

Having grown up in a more chivalrous time it never occurs to me to NOT open doors, giving up my seat to women or just using good manners. Sadly it is a sign of the times I suppose - equal rights, equal pay - no more chivalry.

Jack

[davedove]

I'm afraid for a lot of people is pure selfishness. Their unconscious thought (and maybe conscious) is "What benefit would I get from offering my seat to someone?" And their thinking is so short term they don't even consider that they may one day be in the other person's situation.

[Richland]

It is not dead. Men such as we carry the torch. I was raised to give up my seat, hold the door, etc. and it brings me pleasure to do it. It does make me mad to see other men not be that way, but it makes me feel better than them when i do. All my friends behave this way to
So I say to all you kilted men: Be courtious, and gentlemanly, and chivalrous when kilted. So maybe in a small way, women will recognise the kilt as a symbol of good manners, respect, courtesy, and strength. Just my thought.

[ckelly327]

Being in my early 40's I'm never sure which generation I fit into but I was raised to be polite. Always hold the door, offer a seat to a lady and say Thank You and Please as much as possible. There's no harm in doing any of that, kilted or not. I guess to me it's all just a part of being civil to the people around me. So, thank you for giving up your seat - it's a gentlemen's thing to do.

[dilrule]

Being in my early 40's I'm never sure which generation I fit into but I was raised to be polite. Always hold the door, offer a seat to a lady and say Thank You and Please as much as possible. There's no harm in doing any of that, kilted or not. I guess to me it's all just a part of being civil to the people around me. So, thank you for giving up your seat - it's a gentlemen's thing to do.

i also was raised polite everyone looks at me strange :confused: well w/e i guess theres still a few good men out there

[Pour1Malt]

Having grown up in a more chivalrous time it never occurs to me to NOT open doors, giving up my seat to women or just using good manners. Sadly it is a sign of the times I suppose - equal rights, equal pay - no more chivalry.

Jack

ai dinnae buy that "equal rights means open yur ain door" bunk....

ALL people deserve equal rights

an a' people also deserve to bae treat'd w' guid manners...

Richland is richt!!!

kilties need tae set a guid example...

[longshadows]

Regardless, younger women will still accept the gesture of offering a seat or opening the door. Problem is, like a lot of the younger guys, who don't bother to offer a lady their seat; some of the younger women will accept your gesture without even a "thank you."

I might be tempted to stereotype and say that "the younger generation" is selfish or less thoughtful than our own, but as soon as I do, someone in that younger generation proves me wrong.

One the other hand, perhaps it was/is our own generation who didn't do a very good job of installing the value of courtesy and regard for others in their children. ("What goes around comes around.")

[Pour1Malt]

aye yur richt there Michael....

[chasem]

My father was in the us air force when I was growing up until my early teens or so. He and my mother always taught me to be a gentleman. Ladies first, hold the door, offer any assistance, etc. As a result, that stuck with me at 21 now, I still open doors, give out seats, pull out the chair for a date, whatever I can to be a gentleman.

I get so frustrated when other guys don't hold open doors for ladies, and even more frustrated at the times I have held open the door for someone (lady or older man even) and not hear so much as a sarcastic "thanks pal" even.

What drives me up the wall the most is the women who, upon having a door opened for them, responds with "I can do it for myself!"

So many times I want to let a snappy retort fly, but a) I'd rather continue being a gentleman and b) I can't think of any

[mbhandy]

Good manners is parents responsiblity and there are a lot of people out there who don't have them. I worked with drug, gang and AA Kids for 16 years and part of our mission was to teach respect and trust. Most of the kids I worked with were good kids but no training or little respect for themselves or others.
My only peve was when they would call me Sir (call my father Sir) with that funny tone in their voice.
I see people all the time open doors or help other people with packages or luggage. Live in a resort town and they don't expect a tip, just good manners.

Sure there are people out there that don't have or refuse to use good social graces, some of it is culture.
Enought Rant, and I do open doors and give up seats, But don't call me sir, I work for a living. :rolleyes:


MrBill