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    Quote Originally Posted by Schultz
    I always have such mixed emotions when I look at pictures of ruined abbeys and churches. They're so beautiful now, but I almost weep when I think of how beautiful they'd be if they were still in all their resplendent glory.

    Robertson, do you happen ta ken when it was abandoned?

    ....Not sure at all, but I bet that they were abandoned after the arrival of protestantism and reform to Scotland. In Glasgow I could see the effects of it on the Cathedral, that lost all its images during the covenanters period. Abbeys and monestries suffered the same destiny: if they were not going to be used as cult places for the kirk,... they were attacked or simply left for their ruin... there was no importance for art of traditions on those times!. In Spain we suffered something like that on the XIXth. century, when a govt. minister called Mendizábal ordered the dissolution of the monk's institutions, and many aabeys and monestries went to private hands, who even dismounted them and sold the stones for building purposes,... others remained on pvt. hands but where let to ruin as well. There are dozens of forgotten ruined places like those on small villages all over rural areas of Spain that are now empty of population...

    In opposition, I remember two examples of some respect: one is the Great Misquit, in Istambul, where the muslims respected the ornaments of the former orthodox Cathedral of Hagia Sofía, even after using it for their own cult who forbids images of God, St. Mary, the divinity of Christ, etc,...

    The other one, on the opposite side, is The Al-Hambra in Granada, where a cathedral was built inside, but the amazing arabic ornaments were respected as well as the whole distribution of the building, and we can enjoy it today, even knowing that all the written texts on the walls are suras of the Q'ran, which was not accepted by our church...

    ... those can be examples of respect that arrive to us from the past... hopelessly we will learn some day this hard lesson!

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    Great photos, as always, P1M.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valencian Kilted
    ....Not sure at all, but I bet that they were abandoned after the arrival of protestantism and reform to Scotland. In Glasgow I could see the effects of it on the Cathedral, that lost all its images during the covenanters period. Abbeys and monestries suffered the same destiny: if they were not going to be used as cult places for the kirk,... they were attacked or simply left for their ruin... there was no importance for art of traditions on those times!. In Spain we suffered something like that on the XIXth. century, when a govt. minister called Mendizábal ordered the dissolution of the monk's institutions, and many aabeys and monestries went to private hands, who even dismounted them and sold the stones for building purposes,... others remained on pvt. hands but where let to ruin as well. There are dozens of forgotten ruined places like those on small villages all over rural areas of Spain that are now empty of population...
    It happened in England during the reign of Henry VIII. Henry ordered most of the monestaries and abbeys cleaned out, both to "Stamp out the Papists" and to get their money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davedove
    It happened in England during the reign of Henry VIII. Henry ordered most of the monestaries and abbeys cleaned out, both to "Stamp out the Papists" and to get their money.
    Silly english kings....didn't he have enough stuff to break withough wraeaking havok on the scots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilted KT
    Silly english kings....didn't he have enough stuff to break withough wraeaking havok on the scots?
    I probably wasn't completely clear. Henry did this in England, not Scotland. Scotland was still an independent country during Henry's reign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davedove
    I probably wasn't completely clear. Henry did this in England, not Scotland. Scotland was still an independent country during Henry's reign.
    ahh...good thing he stayed in his own sandbox...

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    As I said, scots were capable enough to destroy that heritage by their own without the help of a foreign tirannus


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    Quote Originally Posted by Valencian Kilted
    As I said, scots were capable enough to destroy that heritage by their own without the help of a foreign tirannus


    ˇSalud!

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    some maire pics for ya...


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    this is the re-construction o' Lady Devorgilla's Coffin... using the bits and pieces o' whit wuz left o' the origonal...


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