A Braveheart spoof

[highlander_Daz]

Mike Id reccomend a programme about Wallace called "the real braveheart" presented by Tony Robinson, to fisherman show Tony the actual site of the original bridge by using a glass jar pushed into the water (old fishermans trick) to see the remains of the original supports for the bridge. amazing stuff to see whats left of the bridge.

[ckelly327]

Nothing to do with the bridge or history but this is one of the great Braveheart spoofs around:

http://www.kontraband.com/show/show....Keywords=sheep

Sorry, no kilts, just an enthusiastic Mel Gibson impersonator.

[Chris Webb]

We Texans bitch the same way about every movie ever made about the Alamo. I don't care how 'historically accurate' any director ever gets it Texans will never be satisfied, NEVER!

Of course, given that 70% of Texas counties are named for Scot-Texans it should come as no surprise that we act just like Scots do when regarding William Wallace.

Wallace, Travis, what's the difference ... two men who somehow embody all that cannot be fully depicted regarding the deep seated fighting spirit of both our peoples.

Scotland, like Texas, like it or not is just a part of a greater nation ... both countries, for reasons eternally debated, now permanently merged with the irrepressable power house next door.

Texans still dream of the old Republic of Texas ... but had the Republic of Texas ever been so grand as our dreams have made it then it would never had joined the United States to begin with.

Still, like Scotland, Texas will never, ever be so immersed in it's parent nation to lose it's own identity, it's own traditions, it's own garb, food, music ... no, Texas will remain suspended in the past, floating in our minds like some dream that refuses to stop once you are awake.

Scots remember Wallace ...

Texans, well, we Remember the Alamo!!!!

Yeee Haawwwww.

Chris Webb

[Mike1]

Daz, the picture of the Forth is actually looking toward the area where the old bridge remains are located. I would like to see the video, it has to be fascinating.

[macwilkin]

We Texans bitch the same way about every movie ever made about the Alamo. I don't care how 'historically accurate' any director ever gets it Texans will never be satisfied, NEVER!

Of course, given that 70% of Texas counties are named for Scot-Texans it should come as no surprise that we act just like Scots do when regarding William Wallace.

Wallace, Travis, what's the difference ... two men who somehow embody all that cannot be fully depicted regarding the deep seated fighting spirit of both our peoples.

Scotland, like Texas, like it or not is just a part of a greater nation ... both countries, for reasons eternally debated, now permanently merged with the irrepressable power house next door.

Texans still dream of the old Republic of Texas ... but had the Republic of Texas ever been so grand as our dreams have made it then it would never had joined the United States to begin with.

Still, like Scotland, Texas will never, ever be so immersed in it's parent nation to lose it's own identity, it's own traditions, it's own garb, food, music ... no, Texas will remain suspended in the past, floating in our minds like some dream that refuses to stop once you are awake.

Scots remember Wallace ...

Texans, well, we Remember the Alamo!!!!

Yeee Haawwwww.

Chris Webb

Chris,

The latest version of the Alamo came pretty darn close -- and most of that was due to the fact that the movie folks actually listened to respected historians like Bruce Winders, curator of the Alamo, and Stephen Hardin, author of the best (INMHO) book on the Texas Revolution, "Texian Illiad". It had it's problems, but overall, it's come the closest so far.

But you are quite right about the Texas-Scottish connections; after all, there was a piper at the Alamo, Sgt. John McGregor, who reportedy had musical "duels" with an Ulster-Scot named Crockett, and several Texian songs of the period were to the tunes of "Scots Wha Hae" and "Auld Lang Syne".

End OT...

Cheers (Y'all),

Todd

[auld argonian]

...and would someone please find the Bob Newhart pardoy of Braveheart that they ran on the MTV awards show for me? I have looked high and low on the internet and have yet to find it. I didn't see it when it ran on TV and so I guess that I've missed it entirely!

Best

AA

[Colin]

Mike, that first statue is ghastly!! Great song, the only part that was wrong, is that Mel is an American raised in Australia.

[longshadows]

Still, like Scotland, Texas will never, ever be so immersed in it's parent nation to lose it's own identity, it's own traditions, it's own garb, food, music ...

As usual Chris, your content is only surpassed by your eloquence.

Seriously, though, I'm wondering if it's not some of that same Scots pride that emerged as the Texas pride we are so famous for! Maybe we could say, Celtic "sense of place." Let's face it, Scots, Irish and Texan are pretty nationalistic and that's probably a shared gene!

(Now that I'm reading Grady McWhiney's "Cracker Culture," those Celtic genes seem to be popping up all over the place :rolleyes: )

[macwilkin]

As usual Chris, your content is only surpassed by your eloquence.

Seriously, though, I'm wondering if it's not some of that same Scots pride that emerged as the Texas pride we are so famous for! Maybe we could say, Celtic "sense of place." Let's face it, Scots, Irish and Texan are pretty nationalistic and that's probably a shared gene!

(Now that I'm reading Grady McWhiney's "Cracker Culture," those Celtic genes seem to be popping up all over the place :rolleyes: )

Check out this web site, then!

http://www.carl-peterson.com/music/darc1017.html

and

http://www.txscot.com/

Cheers,

Todd

[Scratchy's Lass]

Mike Id reccomend a programme about Wallace called "the real braveheart" presented by Tony Robinson, to fisherman show Tony the actual site of the original bridge by using a glass jar pushed into the water (old fishermans trick) to see the remains of the original supports for the bridge. amazing stuff to see whats left of the bridge.

I did find the following. I would LOVE to see the program itself, for sure!!

http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?qw...*listing*title

In Search of British Heroes: A Companion to the Channel 4 Series Fact or Fiction
by Tony Robinson, David Willcock

About this title: Examining legendary figures from history, "In Search of" "British Heroes" seeks to reveal the truth behind the myths surrounding the great characters of our past. Tony Robinson investigates renown heroes of British history, including Boudicca, Kind Harold, Robin Hood, and William Wallace (better known as Braveheart). Although all but one died a failure, each was seen as symbolizing something great during their lifetime. Tony Robinson journeys into history to trace the true story of some of the greatest Britons that ever lived, seeking to discovering who the real people were behind the myths that surround them, and ultimately how these myths have woven themselves into our nation's character and its perception of itself.