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10th May 06, 01:24 PM
#71
 Originally Posted by RockyR
Why can he patent a pleating system that's been used before him? He's the first one to apply for a patent on it... that's how.
It seems to me that he'd have a rough time enforcing it in the event of a lawsuit - prior art and all.
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10th May 06, 01:25 PM
#72
if it is a us patent
does that mean some on in say..... canada make them?
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10th May 06, 01:37 PM
#73
 Originally Posted by Caradoc
It seems to me that he'd have a rough time enforcing it in the event of a lawsuit - prior art and all.
from what i have seen they are slightly different
he has knife pleats that go to the back with A box pleat in the back
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10th May 06, 01:39 PM
#74
I figure anyone trying to sue UK on the basis of this patent is a frivolous bored lawyer. If someone can't come up with their own way to fold cloth, then they need to get out of the kilt industry altogether!
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10th May 06, 01:56 PM
#75
The UK patent also begins with listing a "front center pleat".
It's not just the "Kinguisse" style pleat in the back that's patented, but the entire garment itself. A traditional kilt made (and sold) in the US with the Kinguisse style pleat would not violate UK's patent, at least not according to one of the patent attorneys here at my firm.
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10th May 06, 01:57 PM
#76
 Originally Posted by switchblade5984
from what i have seen they are slightly different
he has knife pleats that go to the back with A box pleat in the back
This is also known as a "Kingussie" or "reverse Kingussie" pleat, depending on the direction of the knife pleats. If the pleats "point" to the back, it's a reverse Kingussie. If the pleats "point" from the center box pleat out to the hips, it's a Kingussie pleat.
I've also seen it listed as a "Kinguisse" pleat.
Kingussie Reproduction Website
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10th May 06, 02:19 PM
#77
I agee with Schultz, there's no way UK could enforce that patent against someone making and selling Kingusse style kilts, only against someone making a direct copy of a UK
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10th May 06, 02:56 PM
#78
Could they enforce it? Maybe... Testing that theory is where patent law only benifits the lawyers involved.
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10th May 06, 04:28 PM
#79
 Originally Posted by andyfg
Yes, you wrap them round your waste in a kind of circle . . . 
the kilt is a circumferential garment that wraps around your "waist."
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10th May 06, 04:33 PM
#80
 Originally Posted by BLAZN
Though I'd like to own one, I haven't a single Utilikilt. I got my start in kitl wearing by dressing up for Halloween. Then I carried it on when I realized the chicks dig men in kilts. 
During my 2000 trip to London, I had one English lady at the National Art Gallery there in London inform me that we Yanks speak "American" and not "English." *shrugs* "American" is simply a dialect of "English," so I would say that a UK is simply a dialect of kilt. [/QUOTE]
Dialect is a regional or social variety of a language distinguished by pronunciation, grammar, or vocabulary, especially a variety of speech differing from the standard literary language or speech pattern of the culture in which it exists: Cockney is a dialect of English.
A variety of language that with other varieties constitutes a single language of which no single variety is standard: the dialects of Ancient Greek.
The language peculiar to the members of a group, especially in an occupation; jargon: the dialect of science.
The manner or style of expressing oneself in language or the arts.
A language considered as part of a larger family of languages or a linguistic branch. Not in scientific use: Spanish and French are Romance dialects.
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