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    It depends on what you are looking for. For the immediacy you can't beat SW. For a made to measure product USA is the way to go. It's apples and oranges.

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    Another thing to think about is the Tartan you want. Stillwater has a limited number of Tartans, USA Kilts has a good number more to choose from.

    They do not compare directly to one another as Millar has stated, so you need to look at what you want, not just at the price.

    Both are great products, as you can find by comments here.
    Stillwaters have a fixed length, and do not fit everyone exactly the same. Some here do not like tem because of this.
    USA Kilts can be bought "off the rack" or specifically measured for YOU! This is why they are a bit more expensive, not to mention that they are lovingly hand made by Rocky or Kelly!
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    While I like my 3 SWK's (Nightstalker standard, 2005 Shadow HW, and Weathered Lamont HW), especially for the price, I LOVE my USAK's. I rarely wear the shadow tartan anymore, and will likely sell it soon. If you go with SWK, then I would recommend the HW's unless you just want something to kick around in. The HW's are wool and very nice. However, that also puts you into the price range for a USAK casual. As has been stated, what is your primary purpose for buying another one? Beyond just wanting one!
    The kilt concealed a blaster strapped to his thigh. Lazarus Long

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    care and feeding diff's b/w SW and USAK

    I have had all 3 Stillwaters (econo, std, heavy)... just SKIP the economy; for the $$'s difference, their Standard is an amazing jump up in quality. I also have a wonderful kilt from Rocky at USA and its only drawback is a pet peeve of mine. VELCRO... it secures via velcro instead of straps and I just happen to despise velcro. I will tell you this: my USA is beaucoup sturdier than the Stills. Although I handwash both and hang dry, I suspect the USA would do well on a gently cycle; I can guarantee the Stillwater will NOT. So while SW standards are lighter and more felted than my USA, the twill fabric of my Thomson Grey from USA is just a much, much better fabric yet still quite light. (And the no iron pleats are a great help too!). All that to say, if you need a kilt that will wear a long time, talk to Rocky at USA about the fabric you are choosing. You can't go wrong. He'll steer you right. And know that Stills are GREAT buy for the price, but a bit fragile.
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    You hit the nail on the head

    I also am not a big fan of velcro. Much rather have the straps. However I'm looking for a tank that can stand up to some consistant usage.

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    Why not try the semi-traditional from USA Kilts. It's a bit more expensive, but it's got the look of a traditional style kilt with the straps and buckle, but it is still the smae machine washable PV.

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    I CONSTANTLY recommend both to people who ask me about kilts. It's pretty easy to tell which way they will go with their purchase, and what they're looking for.

    Stillwater Kilts: wonderful kilts with numerous pleats and straps for the guy that's going to wear any tartan and enjoy the look. They're a "generic" fit for most, but may be easily tailored for a more precise length. All-in-all, I've never had one complaint about them as far as getting what you pay for! Beyond that... the customer service is second to none.

    USAKilts: a WIDE range of looks, materials, tartans and prices. The whole spectrum has been covered for the tartan-wearing guy. Even the lowest price kilts are worthy of proud display... and you really can't say that about some other products available. The fit IS tailored to YOUR own size. This can be VERY important for when you're not exactly "normal" (in shape that is). The majority of my "redirects" do go to USAKilts because I deal with a load of Scots/Irish that are looking for a certain tartan. From St. Pats Day, Tartan Day, Talisker Sailors Ball, the Festivals, the Saw Doctors gig, and the other appearances... I KNOW that people have been ordering since they've written me to thank me for the advise.

    With BOTH companies, you just can't go wrong. IF (for some fluke) something's not completely right, you can be assured that it WILL be corrected to your pleasing. Just determine what your need is and feel comfortable with your choice. There's MORE than enough guys here that can attest to both!
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    i love my still standards

    i am thinking about usak

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    I beileve something to consider is that Stillwater Kilts suit a large kilt belt. USA Kilts' casual model uses a smaller, more normal belt loop. Their semi-traditional kilt uses large loops for a kilt belt. Consider what kinda belt you want to wear, as somehow the large ornate belts do not go as well with some of my casual "Kiss me, I'm Irish!" type shirts.

    Also, this may not matter to some people, but it kinda sticks me. If you buy a casual USA Kilt, you'll have a Celtic cross patch on the bottom right corner of the front apron. As a matter of personal faith, I couldn't wear it. (And where do I stick a pin?) I believe the semi-traditional model does not have this cross patch.

    I will vouch for the standard Stillwater Kilt's quality. Acrylic wool feels (imo) much better than my pv Sport Kilt. I'm not sure about the pv material USA Kilts uses, as I have not bought one, although I'm assumign it's similar. My standard Stillwater Kilt is just ... everything I want right now, but I will say there is a chance I will buy from USA Kilts in the future for their tartan selection and custom sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjoseph
    .... I also have a wonderful kilt from Rocky at USA and its only drawback is a pet peeve of mine. VELCRO... it secures via velcro instead of straps and I just happen to despise velcro. ....
    Regarding the velcro, I think it is good for that kilt. I think it speeds up dressing greatly. And that makes it a good thing to me.

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