Kilt in Breaking the Da Vincci Code

[bubba]

ya wuid nae believe hae many daft people think thot book is real...

an are tryin tae tear apart Rosslyn tae fin the thot bloody holy grail...

... numpty's! :rolleyes:

Yeah, I'd believe it. After all, after Star Wars people claimed Jedi as their religion on census forms. Fiction always gets the vote since it's more exciting than most folks reality.

[Iolaus]

I haven't read the book, nor do I intend to, as I have a mild interest in Templar and Masonic history, and the theoretical connections between the two; and I don't want to confuse, in my mind, the factual research and conjecture with the admitted fictional story in the book.

That said; I've long had an interest to see Rosslyn simply because of the history of "mysterious connections" and the curious juxtapositions of christian and pagan symbolism in the carvings. I'd be interested in a tour that details all the known facts about the history and the architecture without any of the mystical conclusions.

Love to see someone comfortable enough to wear a kilt on an national, if not international, show.

I'm sure most of us would be willing to do that, as long as we had a chance to make sure our outfit was appropriate - wouldn't want to embarrass the kilted community, ya know!

[mrpharr]

Tried to read it but didn't care for the style. Plus there is so much about it on the ol tube that it kind was a suprise buster.

[Blu (Ontario)]

... as I have a mild interest in Templar and Masonic history, and the theoretical connections between the two... I've long had an interest to see Rosslyn simply because of the history...

Me too... Read Hiram Key??

[Iolaus]

Me too... Read Hiram Key??

No. Years ago, I read Holy Blood/Holy Grail, which I understand was part of the whole DaVinci thing; it got me interested in the general subject, but there were too many unsupported assumptions in the book for me take to it seriously. One book on the subject that did fascinate me is John Robinson's "Born in Blood." He also has some conjecture involved, but he supports his theory pretty well with documented historical facts.

[Frank McGrath]

I cant wait until the next Airplane sequel comes out. Now that was a real movie.

[Iolaus]

I cant wait until the next Airplane sequel comes out. Now that was a real movie.

That wasn't necessary. You will note that I didn't give Holy Blood/Holy Grail a lot of credibility; it's the factual stuff I'm interested in.

There is a distinct line between the historical research being done on the Masonic/Templar connections, and the religious/mystical connotations that fiction writers (and others) try to inject into the issue. The book I recommended is firmly set in the non-religious aspects of the issue. Robinson make no attempt to draw conclusions as to what mysteries may be involved. He simply investigates how the one group may have morphed into the other, as a way to escape the purge that was going on at the time. He makes his case by detailing known facts, and then introducing his interpretations, while clearly stating where his assumptions affect his conclusions. This method of presenting his conclusions gives him, in my mind, a little more credibility than the vast majority of writers in the field.

[Mike1]

Iolaus, Born in Blood is a good read. There are so many alleged 'Masonic' titles out there, but many of them have no actual foundation in fact.

The Templar connections are interesting, indeed, but there are so many legends that have sprung up about the Templars that it can be difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff. I cringe every time I see that someone is attributing the Bruce's victory at Bannockburn to a last-minute charge of the Templars. There's nothing to substantiate that theory, whatsoever. If you spend a bit of time talking with Scottish historians, or reading their works, there is absolutely no mention of any Templar presence at Bannockburn.

There are so many (well over 200, world-wide) groups that claim to be descended from the 'original Knights Templar' and we have no way to satisfactorily prove any of those claims.




The fellow in the center of these photos is the Grand Prior of the Knights Templar of Scotland, Ken Schirra. Is this order the 'real' Knights Templar? Who can say?

These images were taken at the Battle of Falkirk Memorial, during a commemoration there. And don't be placing designs on the lass, either, as she is already mine, thank you very much.

[MacHummel]

I agree with Blu I have read The Hiram Key and many books on the subject of the Masons and Templars, Holy Blood, Holy Grail is another great book, also for those of Canadian blood try Treasure on Oak Island. After reading the books I've read and being part owners of a shop which carries many books on said subject I'll say that I have formulated a very interesting hypothesis about the Templars and Masons but thats for the pub and David R Ross.
Also another great book is a reprint of and 1824 manuscript called History of the Knights Templars a very good read.

[JayFilomena]

as I have a mild interest in Templar and Masonic history, and the theoretical connections between the two; I'd be interested in a tour that details all the known facts about the history and the architecture without any of the mystical conclusions.

I took the family to Scotland, and wanted to have the children make something out of glass at a local shop. would you believe that the shop had closed two days before, and you could no longer allow the children to blow glass? I asked the person at the desk, Is there anything else around here we could go visit? sure, she tells me, "you can go see Rosslyn" I take my wife, my mother, my four children and my nephew (uh huh) and the tour consisted of renting a tape player and head phones. You walked around the chapel with the head phones, and when you get to something of interest, the tape player talks about it. Well, with chasing after 5 children, I let my wife and mother listen to the head phones. It was only after I returned to baghdad and began to show an interest in Templars and Masons that I realized what a Mecca Rosslyn is. I could kick myself in the ****.