Martial Arts Discussion

[Yaish]

Good article Bil.

[Master Boid]

http://www.fighttimes.com/magazine/m...sp?article=322

Bil

As far as I'm concerned that's how I train (and have trained) already...it was a finely written article on the facts of MA's, as far as not training with knives go...training WITH them can also be dangerous if you don't know how to handle them.

On the point of 'finding the inner chi during a fight' part, if you've trained it enough you won't have to stand there and 'find' it during combat but will be able to use it at will.

But as far s the rest of it goes, I agree, most traiditional MA's get you formalised into a system of automatic movements (which is why I dislike Karate so much) but most of the systems that I've trained in treach in the way you've written down, so I'm happy.

Lastly, Bil, I take it you follow the JKD concepts? If so....good man

[Valencian Kilted]

My only MA training was in Judo when I was a kid until 15 years old. I stopped in green-blue belt, but it's been a long time since then and i never felt interested again for any other martial arts. I forgot almost all except the basics, but I kept smthg for sure.... the best way to avoid a kick is not being on its way..... and... as much strength ur enemy puts in an attack, as much easy it is to put him down to land.

Even more, as it was forbidden to use Judo or any other MA on street (by law), I never used it for the couple of fights I had in the past, so... I limited myself to those basics and they worked quite well.... the time the enemy was just one, of course! The other time I put the other guy on its place and inmobilised him, but his mates started to kick me on soil, so,.... I wouldn't recommand Judo for streetfights!

¡Salud!

T O N O

[Archangel]

Alright, I'll throw my two cents in for whatever it's worth... which is probably no more than two cents.

Regardless of style, IMO, it must be based on reality and put to full contact (100% power and speed) testing in order to be relevant in the real world or else you don't know that it will really work in a pinch. I've seen a TON of instructors demonstrate complete garbage that worked during the demonstration because the student unintentionally and inadvertantly facilitated the demonstration... I've even been that student. Let's face it, we've all been there.

Secondly, unless it is put to the test of full contact, you will never really know what it is like to try and stay focused in combat when you finally are thrust into that position. And at that point you are relying completely on muscle memory and luck. I prefer to believe that luck favors the prepared.

Look, this is just one man's opinion and it certainly isn't gospel. But in my life it is the only way to think and train. I wrote an article about 6 months ago that better articulates what I am trying to say. If you want, take a look and see if you agree. I'll apologize in advance if I offend anyone.

http://www.fighttimes.com/magazine/m...sp?article=322

Bil

Art of War states it this way: once you engage the enemy, all the battle plans are thrown out the window.

The lesson really is learn everything, commit to nothing. You have no idea of your opponents' strategy. The lesson of my previous post was not to point out how great an instructor I was (thank you, for thinking so) but that the young women was attacked by somebody using the one attack she had learned to defend against. Any other form of attack would have had a different result since she had no depth of knowledge to help her.

Every thing I would want to say on this subject is covered in The Book of Five Rings by Musashi in the 1600's. Hamish, Keef, Lee, and Musashi all agree: the rule is there are no rules.

[Master Boid]

Aye and the only guy he was beaten by was a master of stick-fighting...