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    styled...

    Quote Originally Posted by starbkjrus
    Which poses another question. The Prince is known as The Duke of Rothesay north of the border but how is he styled? HRH or His Grace? Would the fact that he is heir to the Throne of Great Britain automatically grant HRH or would it be His Grace since Rothesay (that I know of) is not a Royal Dukedom like Kent or York?

    Interestingly in the Duchy of Lancaster they toast His Grace the Duke of Lancaster referring to the Queen.
    Hmmm...that is a good question. At first thought, HRH would take "pride of place", since he is the heir to the throne...but you correct, "His Grace" is appropriate for Dukes (His Grace, the Duke of Argyll, for example) -- I wonder if the Royals web site could answer that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot
    Hmmm...that is a good question. At first thought, HRH would take "pride of place", since he is the heir to the throne...but you correct, "His Grace" is appropriate for Dukes (His Grace, the Duke of Argyll, for example) -- I wonder if the Royals web site could answer that?

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    This was bugging me. :rolleyes: I couldn't find an answer on Style in Scotland on the royal website but answers.com states that Duke of Rothesay is the traditional title of the Heir to the Throne of Scotland.

    Article link here

    but what it boils down to is:

    {Quote from answers.com}

    Current Holder
    HRH The Prince of Wales currently holds the title of Duke of Rothesay and uses it when in Scotland. He has the formal Scottish style of HRH The Prince Charles, Duke of Rothesay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starbkjrus
    ...Interestingly in the Duchy of Lancaster they toast His Grace the Duke of Lancaster referring to the Queen.
    She's also the Duke of Normandy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by An t-Ileach
    She's also the Duke of Normandy.


    You're right. Just looked it up and never knew that. Some of the aspects of the Peerage (especially the royal side of it) still mystify me.

    Wonder how the President of France feels about that?

    Back on topic -- Yyyaaaaaaaankkkkkkk :rolleyes:

    The Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall do indeed cut a fashionable swath these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolaus
    He apparently carries a substantial sgain dubh - looks to be about 8" or more. I'll bet it's not "decorative."

    That is quite the sgian dubh, isn't it!

    But I do have one problem with that photograph. Even if it is Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall, I have an instinctive stomach churn whenever a I see a couple (not matter how in love) wearing matching outfits! It is simply tooooooo cutesy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassMan
    That is quite the sgian dubh, isn't it!

    But I do have one problem with that photograph. Even if it is Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall, I have an instinctive stomach churn whenever a I see a couple (not matter how in love) wearing matching outfits! It is simply tooooooo cutesy.
    I thought that was the whole point of clan tartans--to have husband, wife, father, sons, and all the family in the same tartan. Cutesy perhaps, but symbolizing kinship, loyalty, and solidarity; virtues more important than mere fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiltimabar
    I thought that was the whole point of clan tartans--to have husband, wife, father, sons, and all the family in the same tartan. Cutesy perhaps, but symbolizing kinship, loyalty, and solidarity; virtues more important than mere fashion.
    Hear, Hear!

    I feel the same way; a husband and wife wearing the same tartan, either his or hers, is not the same thing as a couple dressing alike just for fashion, fad, etc.

    When my DW and I were married, my parents presented a sash in our tartan to her during the ceremony as a way to welcome her to our family. One day I hope to get her a kilted skirt in our tartan -- and I would not hesitate to wear either the Nova Scotia or Louisiana tartan in honour of her heritage as well!

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    I think they are both quite rightly wearing the Balmoral Tartan, which is reserved for the Royal family: and rather than being 'cute' it is ideal for both to wear on such a DO occasion.

    As others have mentioned, one should think here of a clan event, where everyone is wearing the same or variations on the same tartan-dress/hunting and so on.

    There is something else here, often on this board one will see pictures, and read references to amazing and 'interesting' variants on highland dress. So there is a good argument for whilst not seeking to stiffle innovation: to look at the origins of kilt wearing, and possibly think where we are coming from.

    Sadly, too often inspiration has come from little girl and other dancers, the excessive display of some bands, and the misplaced enthusiasm of certain kilt makers. With on occasion the result being nearer 'a costume' than highland dress.

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    As Prince Charles served in the Royal Armed Forces, I strongly suspect that he knows quite well how to use that sgain dubh.

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    Thank you for such great input on this topic. You gentlemen have inspired me to search the Internet for pics of Prince Charles kilted and put them in a reference file.

    Not sure if any of the ideas his dressers have for him will be appropriate for the dust and sand of the canyonlands, but never know.

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