UK: Mocker vs. Original?

[macwilkin]

I guess my main question is this - let's say a person does not have hundreds of dollars to spend on "traditional" kilts and wants to wear something to work (business environment) or church on Sunday. If you only have say $150 to spend, do you go with the Mocker or the Original with the big floppy pockets on the outside......or does one say that kilts cannot be worn for "dressier" events until they win the lottery?

Or save the $150, add a wee bit more to it, and you can have a nice 4-yard box-pleated kilt from our own Matt Newsome, kiltmaker and curator of the Scottish Tartans Museum:

http://kilts.albanach.org/

My frugal Scottish grandmother always said, "good things come to those who wait" -- If you really want a traditional, then you will be willing to save up for it -- it makes it even more special when you do get it.

T.

[arrogcow]

As for 'dressier' Utilikilts: it's just my 'umble opinion, but I do not believe any Utilikilt can be dressed up - the fabrics just do not lend themselves to being dressy. Utilikilts are the kilt wearer's blue jeans - can be worn for really tough working conditions or for clean casual wear, but not for anything dressy! And that is why they are so important to us full-time kilt wearers.

I don't think that most of us are talking about formal/semi formal, when we are saying dressier. I personally think of the original and workmans as something I would have worn jeans for in the past, and the mocker as something I would wear instead of a pair of khakis. Granted the original fits this bill as well, but the without pockets makes it lood a little classier (is that batter than dressier). Now again I also prefer the original, I just wear the mocker when I want to be a tad nicer than plain casual.

Adam
1 mocker
4 originals (if you count the denim)
5 workman's
2 survivals
1 PK (that falls in the same catagory as the mocker)

[pbpersson]

Okay....well let's see.....

Yes, the Mocker is wonderful and you can't go wrong

No, the Mocker is not manly enough and I would never wear one

It is the best kilt ever, don't leave home without it

All the negative comments on my kilts have been Mockers

Does anyone else have any input??

[Hamish]

I don't think that most of us are talking about formal/semi formal, when we are saying dressier. I personally think of the original and workmans as something I would have worn jeans for in the past, and the mocker as something I would wear instead of a pair of khakis. Granted the original fits this bill as well, but the without pockets makes it lood a little classier (is that batter than dressier). Now again I also prefer the original, I just wear the mocker when I want to be a tad nicer than plain casual.

Adam

Point taken, Adam. "Classier" is more appropriate here than "dressier", I think.

Probably I was being influenced by the ghastly memories of so many photos I've seen of guys getting married wearing Prince Charlies together with black originals and workman's Utilikilts - and thinking they look a million dollars!!

[NewKilt]

Point taken, Adam. "Classier" is more appropriate here than "dressier", I think.

Probably I was being influenced by the ghastly memories of so many photos I've seen of guys getting married wearing Prince Charlies together with black originals and workman's Utilikilts - and thinking they look a million dollars!!

Well, I'm going to go for my daily walk at the park now and see if I can get that vision out of my head. Perhaps some of the squirrels are wearing little UK Workman's. I'll be wearing my Black Mocker.

Darrell

[Rex_Tremende]

Does anyone else have any input??

I think what you have just discovered is that there are as many opinions here as there are people. You'll just have to drain your checking account and form your own. Check out the photos, listen to what people have to offer, but in the end, your likes and dislikes will have to come from your own experience, values, beliefs, and expectations.

Sorry, bud,
Rex in Cincinnati

[pbpersson]

I think what you have just discovered is that there are as many opinions here as there are people. You'll just have to drain your checking account and form your own.
Sorry, bud,
Rex in Cincinnati

I like the UK Original, the Mocker looks nice, and now I like the Stillwater acrylic standard kilts. I'm thinking I will just need to get one of each type and then decide for myself.

Yes, someday I will get a REAL kilt. I want my first REAL one to be a Swedish tartan, but I think I will wait until 2007 so my finances can recover. This year I can start out with a foundation of inexpensive kilts and then work on gettting some special ones later.

[Chris Webb]

I think what you have just discovered is that there are as many opinions here as there are people. You'll just have to drain your checking account and form your own. Check out the photos, listen to what people have to offer, but in the end, your likes and dislikes will have to come from your own experience, values, beliefs, and expectations.

Sorry, bud,
Rex in Cincinnati

Best post in this thread!! Rex, you said it all.

Kilt On!

Chris Webb

[NewKilt]

Okay....well let's see.....

Yes, the Mocker is wonderful and you can't go wrong

No, the Mocker is not manly enough and I would never wear one

It is the best kilt ever, don't leave home without it

All the negative comments on my kilts have been Mockers

Does anyone else have any input??

In my opinion you could wear a tie with a mocker plus some kilt hose (or any tasteful knee length sock.) You might even get by with a sport coat or blazer with the Mocker. But no Prince Charlie or Argyll jackets. Also no kilt pins, no flashes, and no sgian dubh. In other words, the Mocker is the non-traditional kilt equivalent of Dockers, so wear what you would wear with a pair of Dockers. With any of the other UK's I wouldn't go this far. Again, strictly my opinion.

As Rex has said, you will have to weigh what has be said and make up your own mind. Everyone will have different opinions. It's what you are comfortable with that counts.

Darrell

[pbpersson]

In my opinion you could wear a tie with a mocker plus some kilt hose (or any tasteful knee length sock.) You might even get by with a sport coat or blazer with the Mocker.

Now that sounds like it would look really sharp!

Here in the Arizona desert when going to a new church I typically wear Docker trousers and a really nice polo shirt and think I am under dressed.

Then when I show up - because it is already over 100 degrees at that part of the day - all these 20-something people show up in faded denim shorts and T-shirts and I wonder Why do I bother?

Oh....on a side note.....it's almost funny to notice clothing choices in church because to some degree what people wear defines when they grew up. The 70-something people are still in the suits and ties.