"Get Shirty" kilts

**Chris Webb** · 8th July 06, 08:47 AM

Who in the kilt world is buying kilts from these folks? They sound horrible. I never thought it possible till now ... there really is such a thing as a bad kilt.

Like others here, I keep track of how many kilts I've got, even how many I've worn out and given away ... if you get a truly bad kilt is it proper counting etiquette to leave it in the closet and count it amongst the kilts you have or do you throw it out and count it that way? If never worn does it count at all, although it's assumed the kilt was at least tried on.

No honorable kiltman would give it away ... so it's keep it and count it or count it as tossed, I guess. Thankfully I have not yet faced this dilemma.

Kilt On.

Chris Webb

**kiltedjaz** · 8th July 06, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by RockyR

I understand... I just wanted to make sure that MY product is not lumped into the same category with them and their material quality.

Sorry Rocky

....that was most certainly NOT my inention. I'd like to think that we ALL know that the quality of your Kilts is waaaaaaayyyyyy ahead of their nasty Pakistani imports.

Regards
Jim

**RockyR** · 9th July 06, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by kiltedjaz

Sorry Rocky

....that was most certainly NOT my inention. I'd like to think that we ALL know that the quality of your Kilts is waaaaaaayyyyyy ahead of their nasty Pakistani imports.

Regards
Jim

No problem... BTW, the quality of the CONSTRUCTION isn't "horrible" on imported kilts. More than anything, it's the MATERIAL choice.

Before starting USAK, I had no IDEA that there were so many variations in quality of different types of "poly" material. Straight poly, poly acrylic, Cotton Poly, Poly Viscose, Poly Rayon... not to mention Acrylic, wool blends, etc. all HUGELY different textures and purposes. If you ever come by my shop, I'll show you swatches of different "low cost" (compared to wool) tartans and you'll FULLY understand why we use PV.

**cessna152towser** · 9th July 06, 05:59 AM

Barry, if you just want a cheap kilt for casual wear try one of these:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mans-Black-Sco...QQcmdZViewItem
Also available in other sizes and in "tartan".
Comes complete with buckles which look the part; a lining in the upper area and a kilt pin. They are very light thin polycotton material and don't swing like a real kilt but are fine for casual wear. I have two of these which I mainly just wear around the house but which have been pressed into service in hot weather for wearing to work or out to dinner.

**Kilted Stuart** · 9th July 06, 06:19 PM

I can't blame Rocky for wanting to get the facts strait. A lot of kiltmakers are fighting the association between cheap quality and materials to materials of high quality. Again, most times you do get what you pay for. Rocky and some of the other kiltmakers are trying to sell high quality kilts using everything from wool to PV. Most will make you a kilt in anything you want it made in as long as they can get quality materials for you and get it to you at as low a price as possible. They won't comprimise on quality to make a sale, there's too much pride in there products.

There are a lot of people that associate poly viscose and some poly wool blends with some of the poorer quality materials out there. I can assure you that the poly viscose these kiltmakers ( Rocky, CCK etc.) is of very fine quality. The weave is as close to wool as you can get if you can't wear wool or cannot afford it. It's washable and most are stain guarded. It holds up over time. You don't want to keep buying, you want to build a nice collection (see Hamish) you can choose from and wear for all occations.

All these materials can't be lumped into the same. Cheap is cheap. Pay a little more and you'll be amaized at the quality difference.

Kilted Stuart

**MacWage** · 9th July 06, 07:11 PM

Or to put it another way:
Crap is crap
Buying crap to "fix up" is gilded crap!

Rocky, Stillwater, and the other "inexpensive" quality kiltmakers, have to fight the "we're not crap," so they can get defensive. They put ALOT of effort to finding good materials for kiltmaking that cost not arm+leg.

They should be applauded for their efforts and pride in their work.

It is good to know which are crap, to escape the mistake I made that set me back several years in kiltmaking. Despite recommendations, I bought the two kilts (together) mentioned below. I only wish I knew of Stillwater and USA Kilts. They are now only useful to get people who are "interested" to try wearing a kilt (and me not worrying about theft and tear-age). To try to "fix them" or rebuild them would be "gilding crap" and I would be better using my time to get GOOD materials and making a new kilt.

Poly Viscose IS good materials.

Glad to know that Get Shirty is so bad, it makes crap look good. :rolleyes:

**RockyR** · 10th July 06, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by Kilted Stuart

I can't blame Rocky for wanting to get the facts strait. A lot of kiltmakers are fighting the association between cheap quality and materials to materials of high quality. Again, most times you do get what you pay for. Rocky and some of the other kiltmakers are trying to sell high quality kilts using everything from wool to PV. Most will make you a kilt in anything you want it made in as long as they can get quality materials for you and get it to you at as low a price as possible. They won't comprimise on quality to make a sale, there's too much pride in there products.

There are a lot of people that associate poly viscose and some poly wool blends with some of the poorer quality materials out there. I can assure you that the poly viscose these kiltmakers ( Rocky, CCK etc.) is of very fine quality. The weave is as close to wool as you can get if you can't wear wool or cannot afford it. It's washable and most are stain guarded. It holds up over time. You don't want to keep buying, you want to build a nice collection (see Hamish) you can choose from and wear for all occations.

All these materials can't be lumped into the same. Cheap is cheap. Pay a little more and you'll be amaized at the quality difference.

Kilted Stuart

Ummm... Thanks!

**Barry** · 10th July 06, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by cessna152towser

Barry, if you just want a cheap kilt for casual wear try one of these:-
Also available in other sizes and in "tartan".
Comes complete with buckles which look the part; a lining in the upper area and a kilt pin. They are very light thin polycotton material and don't swing like a real kilt but are fine for casual wear.

Why, thank you, Sir. These are just what the doctor ordered. Light, cheap, and OK for DIY and garden work.

Many thanks

**freddie** · 11th July 06, 12:48 PM

I was looking for a casual kilt (just to wear for 'mucking about' in) last year and bid for one of these cheap kilts from Get Shirty. However I noticed on their web site that they actually do a woollen version which they call their 'ceileidh' range for about £90, so I paid the extra and for a 'casual' kilt it wasn't that bad. The material was excellent, it had two good quality straps and buckles, and although the pleats were very shallow a reasonable attempt had been made to replicate the sett across the back of the kilt (mine was in the Mackenzie tartan). They market it as 'a new concept in kiltmaking' and it certainly looked and felt good when worn. The pleats were heavy enough to swing impressively, although they didn't open like proper deep pleats, and the only fault was that the first pleat on the left side, not having enough depth, lifted too much. If you can't afford, or don't want to pay big bucks for a full 8 yard kilt then this is a very good alternative. However I would recomend Glenniff Highlandwear who are doing really good quality 8 yard kilts for £199 just now.