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Rex_Tremende Three Dog Knot 10th July 06, 09:13 PM
smaughazard Nice buckle, Rex. But… ... 10th July 06, 10:01 PM
James It is a Celtic spin-take it... 11th July 06, 12:30 AM
Pour1Malt no tae discoont James at a'... 11th July 06, 12:57 AM
Rex_Tremende I appreciate the background,... 11th July 06, 03:48 PM
Blu (Ontario) You have a very nicely... 11th July 06, 04:04 PM
highlandcelt OOOH! :shock: Nice buckle! :D... 11th July 06, 04:42 PM
Big Paul Nice buckle! 11th July 06, 08:31 PM
efer Nice Buckle, Rex. I like the... 11th July 06, 09:48 PM
ozmeath Thanks for posting the pic... 12th July 06, 01:03 AM
Rab Gordon I believe that the 3-Dog... 12th July 06, 03:39 AM
Ne Oublie I have books on the ancient... 30th July 06, 06:37 PM
bubba If I recall correctly, the... 30th July 06, 07:28 PM
Scott Gilmore ...... 30th July 06, 08:45 PM
Big Dave The swastika mean "good... 30th July 06, 09:17 PM
TechBear The swastika as a Christian... 31st July 06, 08:35 AM
Woodsheal Some other nice Celtic... 31st July 06, 10:33 AM
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    Nice buckle, Rex. But…

    Three Dog Knot? That's either an old rock band, or something a water hose could cure!

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    It is a Celtic spin-take it back a bit further and you get the 'gripping beast', from which many such designs evolved.

    Take it a step further and you have the Walknut-which shows you are dedicated to Odin. The Ship museum in Oslo did [does it still have?] a display showing the evolution of Scandinavian design-and how the beast became ever more symbolised.

    I'm mentioning this, not to rain on your parade: but if I or many others saw you wearing it, we would assume that it indicated an allegiance to Odinism: and as such shared our faith.

    There are of course many similarities between Teutonic and Celtic art forms, and for certrain reasons some designers tend to label things Celtic, when in fact they have strong Teutonic - Odinic meanings. [Possibly for Americans it might be better if I said Asatru/Vanirtru.]

    This in turn leads to certain problems-for as you know the Swastica is a Christian symbol, though rarely used these days, and is also today a common eastern faith symbol. However variants of it are very common in so called Celtic design-did the Celts get it from the Teutons or vice versa-I do not know. It was also used in WW1 as a British Divisional Sign, and to as recently as WW1 as a Finnish Air Force marking. This leads to a problem, for it can today lead to people walking around in all innocence thinking they are just wearing an attractive adornment, when in fact they are displaying the Swastica. A symbol which can suggest to some that they have certain extreme political leanings!

    Leanings which are not shared by genuine Odinists: but sadly we are aware of them thanks to the misuse of certain of our holy symbols.

    I thought a lot before writing this, for I know that I'm touching upon a sensitive area, and might offend some. But I'd rather be guilty of some offense, than not write; and so create a situation which could have been prevented where someone is indicating an allegiance/viewpoint which does not exist.

    James

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    no tae discoont James at a' ...

    but tae me it lueks like a nice Celtic chree dug bookle...

    guid oan ya Rex...



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    Quote Originally Posted by James
    ...if I or many others saw you wearing it, we would assume that it indicated an allegiance to Odinism: and as such shared our faith.
    I appreciate the background, James, which led me on an interesting web surfing trip. Now if anyone asks me about the buckle, I can say it is an old design of the Teutons, who, while they were wandering around northern Europe battling the Romans, passed it on to the Celts from whom it was stolen by the Fashionistas when the Tourists invaded.

    Thanks much for tyring to keep me out of trouble, and I hope that I can count on your letting people know about those so-called "Christmas Trees" at the holidays, too. It is much better to know the history of these things if we are going to go around displaying other people's symbols, I must agree, however far removed from their origins they may be.

    Vanirtru? That's really getting a little esoteric, but, since it matters to you, I will promise not to do anything that will bring shame to the Odinists while wearing it.

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    You have a very nicely detailed buckle. I like the not-so-shiny finish.

    And an interesting bit of background information as well.

    .

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    OOOH! Nice buckle! I love the knot-work designs on just about everything.
    Great pic!

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    Nice buckle!
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    Nice Buckle, Rex. I like the shape and detail in the design.

    You can always tell folks your a 3 dog night fan... :rolleyes:
    ...Mama told me (not to come), Joy to the World,
    I'm on the road to 'Shambala'.... I'll stop singin' now

    Cheers,

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    Thanks for posting the pic Rex, I was looking forward to seeing it and i'm not dissapointed.It looks like it's good quality too so it should wear well.
    Thanks to James for your historical insights.I've been a student of runelore for twenty two years, although more ardently for seventeen and it's good to read a little about the relationship between the Celts and the Norse.Indeed the Norse introduced a great deal of art and technology to the British Isles, mostly via the Hebrides, Orkney's, Northern Scotland and Ireland. Sometimes whether they wanted it or not!
    I don't you're treading on as many toes as you may think.
    Erin

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    I believe that the 3-Dog design shown is a copy of George Bain's interpretation of a design originally found in the Book of Kells. As to the original origins - that could be a very long discussion

    Rab

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