Some thoughts from Non-Kilt folks...

[Kiltman]

What interesting comments. I read through them all. Good to hear that the AT has kilted hikers. Great references to the Adirondacks, etc. If I had more time, I would join that group.

[pbpersson]

Which is semantically, and denotatively accurate, even if some have a problem with the connotation. It will be a great day when we all embrace the sentiment "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet".

I guess it rubs some people the wrong way. I didn't intend to make trouble. When I look up the word "kilt" on dictionary.com this is what I see:

"A knee-length skirt with deep pleats, usually of a tartan wool, worn as part of the dress for men in the Scottish Highlands"

So....if this offends anyone I'm sorry, I didn't make it up.....

[pbpersson]

Which is semantically, and denotatively accurate, even if some have a problem with the connotation. It will be a great day when we all embrace the sentiment "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet".

I guess what I meant to say is that at first glance it could be said that a kilt in some ways shares a few characteristics with a pleated skirt and if someone out of ignorance referred to it as a skirt I would not automatically take it as an insult.

[Ugly Bear]

I think you need to look a wee bit closer to home for a 'pleated' skirt for men....try 'Utilliskirts' of Seattle. (sorry just a wee typo error there...it should read Usillyskirts).

Mind you they're not really kilts in the most accepted form of the meaning of the word. Just a pair of coulottes with one leghole !!!!

No, they're kilts. It says so right on them.

I can understand you being upset that the kilt has been re-made for modern times by non-Scots. How ashamed you must feel. Still, your bitterness amuses me.

[kiltedjaz]

No, they're kilts. It says so right on them.

I can understand you being upset that the kilt has been re-made for modern times by non-Scots. How ashamed you must feel. Still, your bitterness amuses me.

Hi there UB.

If you took time to read my post properly...what I said was...
'they're not really kilts in the most accepted form of the meaning of the word'
When most people, certainly here in the UK, (and I suspect, in most parts of the world) talk about a kilt they think of a tradionally styled Scottish, Welsh or Irish KILT.
By that comment I think that the term 'kilt' should not be applied to any other type of unbifurcated garment. OK the dictionary definition may say 'pleated skirt' BUT common usage of the word still tends to mean the traditionally styled (male) garment.
If Utilikilts marketed their product as 'skirts for men' or something similar, they would have sold VERY few. The astute businessman, of course, called them 'kilts' so that they would appear attractive to male customers. A VERY clever marketing ploy in hijacking the term most commonly associated with traditional Celtic kilts.

There are 'modern', traditionally styled kilts around and many of them appear quite acceptable and are, rightly so, called kilts. Sold at prices more people can afford.

I dislike Utilikilts for many reasons other than their name, but that's another story.

I'm so pleased you found my 'bitterness' amusing, at least I made somebody happy today.

Regards
James

[Graham]

Interesting site Blu, more positive than negative, made me think of what they are missing out on hiking without a kilt. There is some refreshing honesty there, but I would expect nothing less from people who love hiking.

[Mike1]

Ugly Bear and kiltedjaz, take a couple of deep breaths and agree to disagree.

[Aggie]

I think the thread sounded positive overall. There might be more kilted hikers out there in the future. That "chicks in dresses" video had me doubled over. Excellent!

[cavscout]

I'm shocked that people who do "a lot" of hiking would have a hard time understanding the benfits of wearing a kilt while hiking. I guess they never have to pee :rolleyes: It did seem to be an option for most though.

Let's keep this thread about kilts and hiking. There could be a lot of good discussion on this.

Save the Kilt or not and the skirt vs kilt arguments for the well beaten threads in other areas. Those truly get boring and always end in the same place. If you feel the need to discuss that, do a search and find one of the many other times it has been brought up and add to that thread. please.

[Ruanaidh]

Save the Kilt or not and the skirt vs kilt arguments for the well beaten threads in other areas. Those truly get boring and always end in the same place. If you feel the need to discuss that, do a search and find one of the many other times it has been brought up and add to that thread. please.

Thank you.