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27th July 06, 09:35 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by Bob C.
I would never try to pass off a tweed jacket as formal.
Good choice for business and other, less formal, occasions, though.
Bob C. I consider formal to be where other men are in suits (my wife's company Christmas party, weddings, funerals, etc). I have not had the occasion to wear a tux (except for my wedding) so I have no use of a PC. So while some may be attending the Queen's ball, I will not so my charcoal tweed argyle works just fine.
 Originally Posted by bubba
Are you kidding? For lots of Americans formal means clean jeans and shoes. 
That's just sad. At my best man's wedding, one of the guests was in jeans, baseball hat, and sleevless T-shirt. It was the nicest shirt he owned.....a lame excuse considering that a polo or golf shirt can be bought for $10-$15. To me that is a sign of disrespect, but that is how I was brought up.
Last edited by Colin; 27th July 06 at 09:41 AM.
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27th July 06, 05:08 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by Colin
Bob C. I consider formal to be where other men are in suits (my wife's company Christmas party, weddings, funerals, etc).
That's business attire, not formal.
 Originally Posted by Colin
I have not had the occasion to wear a tux (except for my wedding) so I have no use of a PC. So while some may be attending the Queen's ball, I will not so my charcoal tweed argyle works just fine.
I've not been invited to the Queen's ball (wouldn't go anyway - damned English/German Queeen) but I DO attend a couple of formal events each year. I own a tux, but have not worn it since acquiring my kilt. I wear my PC, now.
 Originally Posted by Colin
At my best man's wedding, one of the guests was in jeans, baseball hat, and sleevless T-shirt. It was the nicest shirt he owned.....a lame excuse considering that a polo or golf shirt can be bought for $10-$15. To me that is a sign of disrespect, but that is how I was brought up.
I agree. I feel the same way about wearing a tweed jacket to a formal event.
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27th July 06, 06:12 PM
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Kilted folks!!!!!!!
The original thread was asking what kind of jacket is appropriate for business attire (kilted). As he is planning on wearing a jacket, I assume (always a dangerous task) that a polo (much less a t-shirt) is not a planned option, but that a coat and tie is normal work attire. In such a case an argyle or like-style jacket (including a normal jacket converted into a argyle-esque jacket or a waist jacket-> cut off and hemmed just below the pocket level).
A Prince Charlie, Montrose and other formal jackets are a bit formal for most business situations, as would a tux. These formal jackets are designed and intended for the same situation as a tux, so are appropriate wherever a tux would be.
If purchasing a jacket-> go for an Argle or a like jacket (whatever name they are given, many are very similar and most are available in tweed).
If can't afford, or would rather put the money elsewhere (like a kilt), modification of a "standard"/"normal" jacket is relatively easy. There are numerous threads about just that, including AlenH's website on making an Argyle-like one.
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28th July 06, 09:15 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by MacWage
Kilted folks!!!!!!!
The original thread was asking what kind of jacket is appropriate for business attire (kilted). As he is planning on wearing a jacket, I assume (always a dangerous task) that a polo (much less a t-shirt) is not a planned option, but that a coat and tie is normal work attire. In such a case an argyle or like-style jacket (including a normal jacket converted into a argyle-esque jacket or a waist jacket-> cut off and hemmed just below the pocket level).
A Prince Charlie, Montrose and other formal jackets are a bit formal for most business situations, as would a tux. These formal jackets are designed and intended for the same situation as a tux, so are appropriate wherever a tux would be.
If purchasing a jacket-> go for an Argle or a like jacket (whatever name they are given, many are very similar and most are available in tweed).
If can't afford, or would rather put the money elsewhere (like a kilt), modification of a "standard"/"normal" jacket is relatively easy. There are numerous threads about just that, including AlenH's website on making an Argyle-like one.
Back to something close to the original topic, please. I'm starting to agree with Hamish here.
Shirt and tie are not required at work, and are rarely seen. I asked so I can find the best jacket to wear for interviews for new jobs...so I don't look like some reject from a poorly-planned renfair.
Last edited by Kilted KT; 28th July 06 at 09:17 AM.
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28th July 06, 08:47 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Bob C.
That's business attire, not formal.
Good, that's what the original poster was looking for. At least I am still on topic 
 Originally Posted by Bob C.
I agree. I feel the same way about wearing a tweed jacket to a formal event.
If only we could all be so perfect. I unfortunately prefer to make my mortage payments and make sure my kids are having fun rather than focus all my money and attention on the kilted race. Not sure what the defensive issue is about, but I couldn't really care less.
Whether the event is formal or "business attire" (I have never considered weddings businees personally) I would still prefer the jacket I have over a regular Saxon jacket. We have already established that the events I am at are not formal, so who cares?!
I bought one jacket for now and went with the advise given to me by the likes of Hamish, Todd, and a few other whose opinion I respect. If that is an issue for you........not my problem.
Last edited by Colin; 28th July 06 at 08:54 AM.
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28th July 06, 09:08 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by Bob C.
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I've not been invited to the Queen's ball (wouldn't go anyway - damned English/German Queeen) .....................
This is going off-topic, but I object strongly to your choice of words in this voicing of your personal opinion. This is a fully International forum with many English and German members. That our beloved Queen is of mixed blood (she is actually more Scottish than German!) is totally irrelevant. I could so easily voice my opinion of your President, but I am sensitive enough to refrain from doing so!
[B][I][U]No. of Kilts[/U][/I][/B][I]:[/I] 102.[I] [B]"[U][B]Title[/B]"[/U][/B][/I]: Lord Hamish Bicknell, Laird of Lochaber / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Scottish Tartans Authority / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Royal Scottish Country Dance Society / [U][I][B]Member:[/B][/I][/U] The Ardbeg Committee / [I][B][U]My NEW Photo Album[/U]: [/B][/I][COLOR=purple]Sadly, and with great regret, it seems my extensive and comprehensive album may now have been lost forever![/COLOR]/
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28th July 06, 01:24 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by Hamish
I could so easily voice my opinion of your President, but I am sensitive enough to refrain from doing so!
Please, feel free, even in a PM. You may find we are on common ground.
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28th July 06, 01:50 PM
#8
All of this would seem to me to point toward a market for a business attire but not formal jacket that's kilt-length. It would have to be a bit more contemporary so the gauntlet section of the sleeve and the epaulets could be done away with. Something like your basic Navy Blue or Black blazer. Tweed seems relatively easy to come by...I have seen blazers with the patch type pockets that are somewhat removeable when making modifications. Perhaps following AllanH's instructions for modifying a sportcoat into a kilt jacket and using a Navy blazer as the raw materials?
This has me back looking at the Kilt Store's Charcoal Grey Crail Jacket as reference...hadn't noticed that they also can provide a kilt and waistcoat in the matching material...now that, to my mind, would be a sharp look.
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