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28th July 06, 06:55 PM
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 Originally Posted by Yaish
For example, do you think the average gent on the street knows who "The Pretender" was?
Which one? The Old Pretender (James Francis Edward) or the Young Pretender (Charles Edward)? Just pulling your leg.
Of course it seems the biggest pretender was Michel Roger Lafosse. Excerpts from the 30 July Sunday Mail -
"A BOGUS Scots royal has fled to his native Belgium after he was exposed by the Sunday Mail.
Michel Lafosse, who claims to be a direct descendant of Bonnie Prince Charlie, has sold his house in Edinburgh's new town and moved home to live with his mother.
Last month, we revealed that the self-styled HRH Prince Michael of Albany, faces fraud charges over his successful applications for British citizenship and a passport.
He is also under investigation by the Office of the Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR). They are probing two charities, the Albany House Trust and the Albany and Stevenson[sic] Trust, which raised thousands of pounds in support of his claim to the Scottish throne.
Lafosse, 48, who moved to Scotland 30 years ago, has already lost his British citizenship and was set to be kicked out of the UK.
Followers have deserted him in droves since our revelations in March."
http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/tm_...name_page.html
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29th July 06, 07:30 AM
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...doesn't it prove that the guy is a descendant of BPC?...he buggers out and goes to live with his mom! (JOKE! NOT POLITICAL STATEMENT!)
My daughter went to a three day volleyball camp and the subject of Celtic identity came up because a whole lot of the girls were wearing shirts from their club volleyball team, "Celtic Force". My daughter came home yesterday saying, "Dad, they don't know anthing about Celts...they think that Celtic equals Irish and nothing else...no Brittany, no Galitia, no Scotland...AND they pronounce it 'Sell-tick'!" Nice that the crowd here has a broader view of the Celtic culture. That Celtic = Irish thing is pretty prevalent in these here parts.
Best
AA
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29th July 06, 07:42 AM
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 Originally Posted by auld argonian
..AND they pronounce it 'Sell-tick'!"
Cuid be they's aw jist fitba fans?
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29th July 06, 08:38 AM
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 Originally Posted by auld argonian
AND they pronounce it 'Sell-tick'!"
They could be devout Larry Bird fans ( Boston Celtics, for the non-baskebat fans out there)
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29th July 06, 08:50 AM
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I very rarely get those kinds of questions ... I'm guessing it's because I'm not wearing my kilts in the traditional way. I wear my kilts "Americanized" ... no sporran, socks pushed down to boots. I think that if I was wearing my kilts with all the traditional items then folks would naturally assume that I knew much more about the history and traditions of kilts and Scotland. Instead I get lots of questions about the growing number of American men wearing kilts.
Glassman, I'm not suprised at all that you get these kinds of questions. From all the pics I've seen of many, many kiltmen you wear yours with more dignity and precission than any of us.
Kilt On.
Chris Webb
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29th July 06, 10:38 AM
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Wouldn't the Irish more properly be called Gaels rather than Celts?
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29th July 06, 12:20 PM
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Glen this too has been similar to my experience. Often people approach me wanting to tell stories of this uncle who owned a kilt, or when I was in Glasgow etc. then expect me to know the geneology and tartans of 1/5 of the western world. Of course I just make up what I'm not sure of, not letting fact or truth stand in the way of a good yarn.
And as you say Yaish we (usually) are comparatively more informed than the average Joe or Jane in the street. This then makes us as kilt wearers representatives of the celtic culture globally, along with musicians and artisans and academics involved in the culture/s. As diplomats it's invaluable to have a forum such as this one to learn and teach.
Erin
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