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8th August 06, 03:18 AM
#41
Originally Posted by Mike1
I cannot see how I would be respectful to a flag when I am sitting on it. As for those flags that I might consider sitting on , why would I want to promote them while standing up?
I couldn't have said it better myself! I also agree with several other comments that too many people in the US have grown too lazy and disrepectful with our national flag. I think that you should show the same respect to your flag that you feel for your country.
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8th August 06, 04:42 AM
#42
A flag is just a symbol. No more, no less. A flag is not a country. It is not a person.
That being said, I don't care what anyone does with any flag at any time. Make a kilt out of it if you like. Makes no difference to me..
This is why I have refused to pledge allegiance to any flag since I was about 10 years old. It just seems absurd to me to pledge allegiance to a symbol that represents something that can change over time as the flag only symbolizes what that nation represents. What happens if a nation falls under unethical, immoral or downright evil leadership? Are you still going to pledge allegiance to a flag which now represents that?
Last edited by GTRMAN; 8th August 06 at 05:18 AM.
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8th August 06, 05:12 AM
#43
I can actually see the side of those who argue that it's disrespectful to sit on a flag. I just see it as being no different that sitting on the family heritage of Stewarts, McDonalds or any other tartan. But that's just me, I guess.
I show my respect for Ireland by proudly wearing a tri-color kilt. The thing has drawn nothing but raves from heraldry, political and casual respondants.
I wear it as a show of pride, not a symbol of disrespect... and all know that.
Arise. Kill. Eat.
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8th August 06, 05:54 AM
#44
Originally Posted by GTRMAN
A flag is just a symbol. No more, no less. A flag is not a country. It is not a person.
That being said, I don't care what anyone does with any flag at any time. Make a kilt out of it if you like. Makes no difference to me..
This is why I have refused to pledge allegiance to any flag since I was about 10 years old. It just seems absurd to me to pledge allegiance to a symbol that represents something that can change over time as the flag only symbolizes what that nation represents. What happens if a nation falls under unethical, immoral or downright evil leadership? Are you still going to pledge allegiance to a flag which now represents that?
GTRMAN,
I have my beliefs and I stand by them, but I respectfully refuse to bite on your comment for obvious reasons. This forum is not the appropriate one to get into this type of discussion. PM me if you wish and we will discuss it offline.
Don
Skype (webcam) dorothy.bright or donald.bright
Patriot Guard Riders - Americans doing the right thing.
www.patriotguard.org.
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8th August 06, 06:02 AM
#45
Originally Posted by SingleBarrelBourbon
GTRMAN,
I have my beliefs and I stand by them, but I respectfully refuse to bite on your comment for obvious reasons. This forum is not the appropriate one to get into this type of discussion. PM me if you wish and we will discuss it offline.
Uh...Okay....
Weren't my comments on topic regarding the subject matter?
I have no problem debating such topics in a respectful manner..I will leave it up to you to contact me as it seems you are taking issue with my comments.
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8th August 06, 06:07 AM
#46
Originally Posted by neo71665
Belive it or not but there are laws and a code of conduct (if you will) against the way american flag is worn today.
The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.
There are no enforceable laws regarding the wearing or use of the flag in the United States as the way the flag is treated, worn or used is protected under Amendment I of the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, any preconceived notions on how it's used as clothing are up in the air. The real RULES regarding flag-wearing are as maleable as those regarding kilt-wearing.
Last edited by GTRMAN; 8th August 06 at 06:34 AM.
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8th August 06, 06:19 AM
#47
riding the line...
Gents,
We're riding the line here. Let's try to keep it on the subject of flags and kilts as much as possible.
T.
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8th August 06, 08:18 AM
#48
Out of curiosity does anyone here own (or even seen) one of the Union Kilts Flag models?
Cheers
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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8th August 06, 08:33 AM
#49
In all that's been said through this thread...
Originally Posted by GTRMAN
The real RULES regarding flag-wearing are as maleable as those regarding kilt-wearing.
... that pretty much sums it up!!!
As I attempted to state earlier, I wear my tri-color as a symbol of pride. Apparently that comes across in the way I wear it and how people perceive it.
The Saltire kilts that are worn at the football games are worn in the same manner. The point that's most important is that you're wearing a kilt... not an actual flag. It's a subtle distinction, but one that's appropriate here.
~and with that... you just can't argue with someone's own personal perception (not opinion)~
Arise. Kill. Eat.
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8th August 06, 09:56 AM
#50
Gents,
Again my apologies. Like I said in a previous post I am rather anal about flag etiquette. Didn't mean to cross any lines or intentionally ruffle any feathers.
Yes, the US Flag Code is not enforceable, just a guideline to show how to pay proper respect to the US flag.
I will try to temper my comments concerning my beliefs from now on.
Don
Skype (webcam) dorothy.bright or donald.bright
Patriot Guard Riders - Americans doing the right thing.
www.patriotguard.org.
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