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15th August 06, 08:50 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by Raphael
I tired a few times, but I have a hard time associating my kilts with working. I have always been associating my kilts with friends, pubs and relaxation time. I noticed that I cannot take my work seriously when I am kilted at the office. I have also turned off the rock music a well. It is a pyshological thing.
I am not trying to tell you that you shouldn't be going to work in a kilt. I am just not as productive when I wearing a kilt.
btw, I work for a HR consulting company and we are very progessive
Kilts are clothing to me. It's absolutely THAT simple..
They're not for my friends, familiy, coworkers, or a cause.. They're for ME..
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15th August 06, 09:07 AM
#2
I agree with Bubba. I don't wear kilts to prove a point or to promote someone else's cause. I wear them for heritage sake and because I want to. I get tired of this "but you should wear them everywhere all the time" mentality. The cause mentality is one of the things (among other big issues) that drove alot of people away from Tom's. There is a lot more important issues to me that need to be fought for.
I don't think it is appropriate to call someone's decision on kiltwearing or their preference "stupid". Alot of us have nothing to prove with kiltwearing, and personally, I would rather wear the kilt for a reason and look good rather than to throw something together and wear a kilt just because it's Tuesday. I wear baggy shorts and t-shirts to work somedays and I know I don't represent myself as well in public. When I wear kilts, I want to put that extra effort in, so that I do represent myself, my family, and my heritage well.
Good call Raphael, if it doesn't work for you at work, leave for at home and when you are on "your" time.
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15th August 06, 12:34 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by Colin
I don't think it is appropriate to call someone's decision on kiltwearing or their preference "stupid".
I hope you weren't referring to my use of the word "stupid". I don't think it is stupid if someone feels they are more productive wearing pants. What I think is stupid is the following line of reasoning:
WOMEN: At work you can wear whatever makes you most productive. Dresses, skirts, pants, whatever you want - the choice is yours.
MEN: You can only wear trousers, if you wear anything else you are fired and if you are not productive you are fired.
Right now I am at a job where for the first time in four years I can't wear shorts and I can't stay awake because I find pants so uncomfortable and hot. I should see if I can bring in a fan and put it under my desk and have it blowing on my pants. I know some companies say that is a fire hazard.
On the other hand.....I don't know if I like the idea of kilts for men being reduced to "play clothes" and never being taken seriously either. :confused:
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15th August 06, 12:54 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by pbpersson
I hope you weren't referring to my use of the word "stupid". I don't think it is stupid if someone feels they are more productive wearing pants. What I think is stupid is the following line of reasoning:
WOMEN: At work you can wear whatever makes you most productive. Dresses, skirts, pants, whatever you want - the choice is yours.
MEN: You can only wear trousers, if you wear anything else you are fired and if you are not productive you are fired.
Right now I am at a job where for the first time in four years I can't wear shorts and I can't stay awake because I find pants so uncomfortable and hot. I should see if I can bring in a fan and put it under my desk and have it blowing on my pants. I know some companies say that is a fire hazard.
On the other hand.....I don't know if I like the idea of kilts for men being reduced to "play clothes" and never being taken seriously either. :confused:
That makes more sense. On the first read thought, it was not clear that you were refering to the policy rather than Raphael's decision or post. I just sticking up for individual thought. I obviously misread the statement.
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15th August 06, 12:56 PM
#5
I don't wear kilts to work either and I honestly don't think that it diminishes my enjoyment of the kilt experience one bit.
It's a choice one must make based on personal circumstances.... Raphael is making the right decision for his situation and gets full marks from me.
Colins point regarding the "cause" mentality is right on target.
blu
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15th August 06, 01:01 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by Blu (Ontario)
I don't wear kilts to work either and I honestly don't think that it diminishes my enjoyment of the kilt experience one bit.
It's a choice one must make based on personal circumstances.... Raphael is making the right decision for his situation and gets full marks from me.
Colins point regarding the "cause" mentality is right on target.
blu
Same here, Blu. I wear my kilt very rarely to work, usually when I am giving some sort of presentation for a local organization on Scottish heritage, or Tartan Day, etc.
My kilt is special to me because it symbolises my family heritage. If I have a "cause" associated with kilt-wearing, it is to promote Scottish heritage and culture, and Scottish contributions to the USA. But that is a personal cause only.
Colin raises a very good point about those who push their agenda of wearing a kilt FT on others; while I would never begrudge someone who does wear a kilt FT (more power to them, I say), it's not for me. The majority of FT'ers here, though, are not that way.
Cheers, 
Todd
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15th August 06, 01:11 PM
#7
I'll have to say that I agree with Bubba and Colins posts on this. Follow what YOU feel is right.
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15th August 06, 01:15 PM
#8
I don't wear kilts on a daily basis and have no real desire to do so. The type of work I do, I think I would feel the same as Raphael, less productive in a kilt.
As a matter of fact, it's been 2-3 weeks since I last wore a kilt.
I've no problem with the guys that wear them daily, whatever works for them is OK with me, even if it is not necessarily what works for me.
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15th August 06, 01:34 PM
#9
I think it's perfectly understandable.
When I worked uniformed patrol, taking off the uniform was part of the "decompression" process. It helped keep me from "taking my work home with me," so to speak.
Now that I'm in plainclothes, I still feel the same way. When I get home, I can't wait to change into something else (anything else!) just to mentally put my work behind me.
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15th August 06, 01:01 PM
#10
I only wear a kilt to work if I'm already dressed. like if I just stop by my office for a quick consult or something. Otherwise I put on my work "uniform" a suit. I really liked Colin's view, well put. Thank you, O'Neille
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