Help me find my tartan(s).

**macwilkin** · 21st August 06, 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by Tattoobradley

Just because that's what they've decided to wear, doesn't mean the USAF or USAFR has officially adopted the tartan. I suppose they could turn around tomorrow and take a fancy to another unclaimed tartan and agree to dress the band in it with this line of thought. Whereas something fully official would be much more "concrete?" This is all speculation of course. I'm not claiming to have the definitive answer here. I'm just working with what I've seen, not trying to stretch it into something it's not. Who is this member you're waiting for a "definitive answer" from? Is this member in a position to give a definitive answer on behalf of the USAFR?

The PAO I spoke to via e-mail said they were passing my query along to the "leader of the band". That's all I know, but I would imagine they would know the status of the tartan.

And btw, I'm not trying to "stretch it into something its not", Just asking questions -- that's what a good researcher does. It stands to reason that someone has given some sort of permission, but who knows? That's why I contacted the Band directly to find out. I have never said I have the "definitive answer". I've probably seen many of the same things you've seen in terms of sources, and to me, the facts don't add up -- hence why I am researching in attempt to get the most accurate story as possible.

T.

**Tattoo Bradley** · 21st August 06, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

The PAO I spoke to via e-mail said they were passing my query along to the "leader of the band". That's all I know, but I would imagine they would know the status of the tartan.

And btw, I'm not trying to "stretch it into something its not", Just asking questions -- that's what a good researcher does. It stands to reason that someone has given some sort of permission, but who knows? That's why I contacted the Band directly to find out. I have never said I have the "definitive answer". I've probably seen many of the same things you've seen in terms of sources, and to me, the facts don't add up -- hence why I am researching in attempt to get the most accurate story as possible.

T.

I never said you were trying to stretch anything. I simply stated that I was not doing so. I also never said you were implying a definitive answer. Again, I was simply stating that I myself was not doing such.

**Colin** · 21st August 06, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by SSgt Baloo

[list=1][*]Woods (grandmother's family name)

Well, Woods is a version of Wood, which is a sept of Watson, and Watson is a sept of Buchanan (that adds a bunch of tartans to your list). There is a few Wood tartans, but they are hard to find, vendor wise, so they are quite expensive. I went with the Watson Ancient (my last name is Wood) from www.scottishkilts.com in the 16 oz jura range.

Here's a picture of the kilt (tartan close up) and the dress sporran I got as well.

Check out these links as well:
http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/stoz/wood.html
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Heritage/F...folk_Wood.html
http://www.myclan.com/clans/Wood_340/default.php
http://members.aol.com/enewman375/page/
http://www.tartans.scotland.net/tart...tartan_id=7300
http://www.tartans.scotland.net/tart...tartan_id=5921

**glengall1** · 21st August 06, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Colin

Well, Woods is a version of Wood, which is a sept of Watson, and Watson is a sept of Buchanan (that adds a bunch of tartans to your list). There is a few Wood tartans, but they are hard to find, vendor wise, so they are quite expensive. I went with the Watson Ancient (my last name is Wood) from www.scottishkilts.com in the 16 oz jura range.

Here's a picture of the kilt (tartan close up) and the dress sporran I got as well.

Check out these links as well:
http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/stoz/wood.html
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Heritage/F...folk_Wood.html
http://www.myclan.com/clans/Wood_340/default.php
http://members.aol.com/enewman375/page/
http://www.tartans.scotland.net/tart...tartan_id=7300
http://www.tartans.scotland.net/tart...tartan_id=5921

Your definitely confusing me know. I have never heard of a sept of a sept. A sept is a family associated to a clan so how can you have a family that has pledged allegiance to a clan which has pledged allegiance to a clan?

Watson was not a clan (that's why they were a sept) and therefore nobody can be a sept of it as such. Watsons were septs of clan Buchanan AND Forbes. They would wear the colours of the relevant clan. If Woods were wearing these clan colors then they are a direct sept not a sept of the sept.

I do stand to be corrected though. :confused: :confused:

**Colin** · 21st August 06, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by glengall1

Your definitely confusing me know. I have never heard of a sept of a sept. A sept is a family associated to a clan so how can you have a family that has pledged allegiance to a clan which has pledged allegiance to a clan?

Watson was not a clan (that's why they were a sept) and therefore nobody can be a sept of it as such. Watsons were septs of clan Buchanan AND Forbes. They would wear the colours of the relevant clan. If Woods were wearing these clan colors then they are a direct sept not a sept of the sept.

I do stand to be corrected though. :confused: :confused:

Just going by what I have found. When looking up information on Wood, it is listed in a number of areas under Clan Watson (Clan or not, I don't know for sure). Yet in other sources Watson (but not Wood) is listed as a sept of Clan Buchanan (haven't seen the Forbes connection before), yet I have not found any reference to Wood being a direct sept of Buchanan. If you have any further information, please send it on, as I am always looking for more info on my name. Cheers.

One of my sources (how reliable it is, I don't know, but it is a good site) is electricscotland.com. Notice on the following link, that not only do they identify Watson as a sept of Buchanan, but they identify Clan Watson with Wood listed as a sept. http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/septs.htm

As for tartans, Watson and Wood were Lowland names, so I doubt they were wearing any tartan in particular if at all

I have only looked into Wood, not Woods. Perhaps there is a difference.

**bubba** · 21st August 06, 10:31 AM

Remember, these families might well be from different districts and so each branch associated with a different Clan. On that basis it wouldn't be odd for families with the same surname to be septs of different Clans.

**Cawdorian** · 22nd August 06, 06:49 AM

I have some Woods back in my mother's family, I do know they emigrated from Ulster, Ireland (Scots-Irish) to the US in the early 1700's and settled in what is now Albemarle County Virginia. I am fairly sure they were Scots because the family helped found a Presbyterian church in Virginia. My tartan choices for this family connection would be the Woods tartan or the Ulster Red. The Ulster Red is a good looking tartan. There is a picture of a kilt in this tartan on Matt's website at www.albanach.org.

The longer you work on your family tree the more connections you will find, I have been working on my line and my wife's line for 5 or 6 years and continue to unearth a new connection every few months.

Keep digging, you will find more Scottish connections.