Plant Badge: Heraldry for common Scots

[Andrew Green]

That whole thing about modern clans not being recognized is interesting. Going by my own experiences (my internal debate over Muir or Gordon), it seems quite possible that a smaller clan, or perhaps even not so small a clan fragments because of the lack of a male heir to the chief, and thus gets incorporated into larger, more powerful, or more stable families in the area. Then later on, there is some interested/resurgence, and the clan tries to become its own entity again. For me this has ended up with identifying as both, a Muir, and a Gordon, and most people, including those more knowledgable about the Gordon's than I am believe it is perfectly OK to identify with both (or perhaps more, if your family ties connect to a few different families). But through all my research, the Muir resurgence is fairly new, and while they have elected a chief, almost every source I have seen/talked to/or read on my own (ie: non-internet) still lists the family as a sept of Gordon. So while this is slightly confsing at times, it is most definitely interesting, and has not been dull in the least.

Still looking for Rock Ivy, perhaps I should check out some botany sites.

[Southern Breeze]

I did some research on Rock Ivy today. Everything I've found points to it being Atlantic Ivy,also called Irish Ivy (hedera hibernica). I'm unable to confirm this 100% so maybe some of our members in Scotland can give some details. Atlantic Ivy is differant from English Ivy (hedera helix). Both species can be found at nurseries throughout the U.S.

Atlantic Ivy (hedera hibernica)



English Ivy (hedera helix)

[sirdaniel1975]

Fantastic... I bet the little buds/bulbs in the center would look real good stuck behind a badge..

Cheers

[Ialtog]

In case some of you haven't seen this, you might find the Flora Celtica database useful in doing plant research. You can find it here: http://193.62.154.38/celtica/fcb.htm

I used it quite a bit when I was putting together our "Plants of the Celtic Region" display for our festival. For those looking for information on their Clan's plant it might be interesting.

[Andrew Green]

I guess I'll start looking around local and semi local nurseries for some Atlantic/Rock Ivy... I'll double check things with the staff of whatever place I manage to find.

[SSgt Baloo]

I am desended from French and Irish ancestors (among others). Does that mean I could put a french fry in my bonnet and call it a clan badge?

~~SSgt Baloo

[macwilkin]

I am desended from French and Irish ancestors (among others). Does that mean I could put a french fry in my bonnet and call it a clan badge?

~~SSgt Baloo

A fleur-de-lis badge or one of the Breton bonnet badges would be better:

http://www.tartanbreton.com/francais/catalogue.htm

I am still on the lookout for a fleur-de-lis kilt pin, as my Cumming ancestors were originally Normans who moved to Scotland, and of course, for my DW, who is of French Cajun heritage.

Regards,

Todd

[MacWage]

. . . , and of course, for my DW, who is of French Cajun heritage.

Regards,

Todd

With a name like Canjunscot, THAT is such a shock!!!!

I'm surprised that a fleur-de-lis pin of appropriate size is so hard to find!!!! :confused:

Are there any clans that use Kudzu as a plant badge? There's plenty of that around here!!!!

Clan MacArolin-> Sons of the Carolinas
Plant Badge-> Kudzu
Slogan-> Calca Non Meum (Tread Not Upon Me-> Don't Tread on Me!)
Badge-> coiled rattlesnake (on Yellow where appropriate)

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[O'Callaghan]

I am desended from French and Irish ancestors (among others). Does that mean I could put a french fry in my bonnet and call it a clan badge?

~~SSgt Baloo

AFAIK, French fries were originally Belgian.

[Bigkahuna]

I am desended from French and Irish ancestors (among others). Does that mean I could put a french fry in my bonnet and call it a clan badge?

~~SSgt Baloo

Why not?? Yankee Doodle stuck a feather in his cap and called it Macaroni!!!