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3rd September 06, 04:41 PM
#11
Originally Posted by munnin
Well I went out kilted for the first time today at the highland games in Altamont NY. I was wearing a royal Stewart affordable (casual) kilt from kiltmart.
It was purchased for a wedding on the 16th. While a more traditional kilt would have been preferable this was the best the groom could afford. After walking around for a while I felt like I was wearing a table cloth so obvious was the difference in look and feel my kilt had.
So I can understand the snobbish part o it, though my wife did say she liked me wearing the kilt.
We skipped Altamont because of the weather and I've been bumming all weekend because of it. Congrats on your first kilted outing.
Regarding Chris Webb's comments above, Ren Faire nerds crack me up. The only thing worse than snobbery is snobbery combined with ignorace. I always laugh (internally) when I see one of those guys at games with his "kilt" halfway down his shins and wearing some big, floppy hat and a drinking horn on his belt. I never say anything, though, because nerds have a right to dress as they please, every bit as much as I do.
Virtus Ad Aethera Tendit
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3rd September 06, 05:05 PM
#12
Originally Posted by Bob C.
We skipped Altamont because of the weather and I've been bumming all weekend because of it. Congrats on your first kilted outing.
Well the weather was not too bad, damp and foggy, rather like the real highlands I imagine. I was actually in thatcher park (which overlooks altamont) earlier and that truly had the highland feel. The grounds were pretty muddy though. I wore boots so I was fine and my wife brought extra shoes for herself and the kids.
The finalist piper bands were still playing when we got there, which was nice. One guy was putting on a sheep herding demonstration with his border collie which was not only cool but the kids loved it too.
All in all a pleasant way to spend a few hours.
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3rd September 06, 05:17 PM
#13
Well, my first kilt was a piece from SWK, I have bought a handful more from them, and I likely will in the future too... as well as having great kilts, and tailored pieces, feilidh beags and so on. I am not so much a snob, as long as the person is doing it right, and not doing it "just for costume", as I see that as cheapening my heritage... if they seriously want to wear a kilt, groovy, I'd be willing to lend what I know. But at the same time, there are lots of resources, both for the real thing (in all its incarnations), as well as how to do it, and do it well. So, for someone to go around for too long without finding out how to do it, is almost a shame. Also, I thought those boys were from Clan Pizzahut?
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3rd September 06, 05:19 PM
#14
Originally Posted by auld argonian
And, Roan, you are right...that Confederate Taran is smashing...makes one wish that he had some rights to wear it (though I know for a fact that parts of my family fought on both sides in the War Between The States). Maybe there should also be a Union Tartan that complimented the Cofederate one.
Best
AA
Actually there is...Matt Newsome is in the process of making me a kilt from the Federal Memorial Tartan right now.
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3rd September 06, 06:02 PM
#15
Federal Tartan
Originally Posted by kiltimabar
Actually there is...Matt Newsome is in the process of making me a kilt from the Federal Memorial Tartan right now.
Really! -- I am interested in this, as I am the Camp Commander of our local Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War Camp:
www.suvcw.org
I'm sure there are many other SUV members who might be interested in such a tartan, and there might even get some official recognition from the national organization! Do you have any information on this tartan?
My Scottish great-great grandfather, William I. Williamson, served with Co. F, 11th Iowa Infantry, USV.
Cheers,
Todd
Last edited by macwilkin; 3rd September 06 at 06:06 PM.
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3rd September 06, 06:16 PM
#16
I've never really considered myself a kilt snob before... but I guess I am - in a manner of speaking.
Before I bought my very first kilt... (a handsewn heavyweight from Nova Scotia)... I had spent several weeks doing searches on-line and in various magazines and books to try and get a handle on the basics. I've always assumed that other people would be capable of the same information gathering.
And although I personally would not spend my money on a sport type kilt, I appreciate that there are those on a thin budget.
As for the guys in tablecloths, in my view that is simply ignorance in action and an embarrassment to the guilty party. I have little tolerance for that nonsense.
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4th September 06, 11:33 AM
#17
Originally Posted by cajunscot
Really! -- I am interested in this, as I am the Camp Commander of our local Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War Camp:
www.suvcw.org
I'm sure there are many other SUV members who might be interested in such a tartan, and there might even get some official recognition from the national organization! Do you have any information on this tartan?
My Scottish great-great grandfather, William I. Williamson, served with Co. F, 11th Iowa Infantry, USV.
Cheers,
Todd
Todd, it's #4161 in the Scottish Tartans Authority listing.
We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance. - Japanese Proverb
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4th September 06, 02:49 PM
#18
Federal Memorial Tartan
Originally Posted by cajunscot
Really! -- I am interested in this, as I am the Camp Commander of our local Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War Camp:
www.suvcw.org
I'm sure there are many other SUV members who might be interested in such a tartan, and there might even get some official recognition from the national organization! Do you have any information on this tartan?
My Scottish great-great grandfather, William I. Williamson, served with Co. F, 11th Iowa Infantry, USV.
Cheers,
Todd
The Dept of Massachussetts was selling neckties in this tartan to members at the National Encampment. The ad in their newsletter is here:
http://www.suvmass.org/CCJan06.pdf#s...al%20tartan%22
I showed the tie to Matt Newsome when I stopped at the Tartan Museum on my trip home. He said he could get the tartan woven; and he showed me how he now makes his kilts with a strap design taken from an original kilt of the 79th NY Highlanders.
If you contact Matt right away, he might be able to add on to his tartan order.
In F,C, & L,
Dave S.
PCC, Phil Sheridan Camp #4
Dept. CA & Pac
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4th September 06, 04:18 PM
#19
Originally Posted by kiltimabar
The Dept of Massachussetts was selling neckties in this tartan to members at the National Encampment. The ad in their newsletter is here:
http://www.suvmass.org/CCJan06.pdf#s...al%20tartan%22
I showed the tie to Matt Newsome when I stopped at the Tartan Museum on my trip home. He said he could get the tartan woven; and he showed me how he now makes his kilts with a strap design taken from an original kilt of the 79th NY Highlanders.
If you contact Matt right away, he might be able to add on to his tartan order.
In F,C, & L,
Dave S.
PCC, Phil Sheridan Camp #4
Dept. CA & Pac
We have a Camp meeting tomorrow evening, so I'll have to print this out and bring it along. I doubt any of other members would be interested in ordering material, but they'll at least like to see it.
Nice to see a fellow SUVCW member here.
In F, C and L,
Todd
Commander, Phelps Camp No. 66, Dept. of Mo.
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4th September 06, 04:18 PM
#20
I have worn kilts to games, and other events for years and it seems to me only in the past 5 or so years there has been a big move for some kilted folks to walk up and start telling me whats wrong with my attire. Or maybe I'm paying more attention now I don't know.
My daddy used to say it's the english who made the ''rules'' for kilt wearing so don't always go by those rules.
I have always worn hiking shoes, T-shirts, denim jackets and such with my kilts. Now everywhere I look I see people wearing the same and I think that's great.
There are things that just don't look right ( like kilts that are too long) and I'll tell those who ask my opinon but normaly I'll have no comment on their dress.
My Utilikilt is too long and I can hardly stand it sometimes but it doesn't stop me from wearing it. I would like to cut it down though.
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