Oh NO! I'm a Kilt Snob

**Robin** · 4th September 06, 04:55 PM

I think I'm a bit of a kilt snob, but I'm someone who likes to do things right...and I guess there's nothing wrong with that.

When I ordered my 1st kilt, I had little...or even less...knowledge, so I franticly tried to find as much information as possible (hello Xmarks!

).

People who don't take the effort...or just don't care...to dress at least semi properly (MacTablecloth) are not wearing a kilt...they're dressed like clowns.

Not a garment, not even a costume...just a mindless, dreadful, ugly "party" outfit.

I'm maybe harsh, but do it (sort of) right or don't do it.

I really don't want to offend anyone, but that's how I feel...sorry

**Chefdave** · 4th September 06, 09:22 PM

I was at the KC Ren Fest this weekend and noticed the same thing. If you saw a guy in a black Utilikilt with a Guinness shirt that was me.

What were you wearing?

I saw lots of really badly worn "kilts" including a girl in a belted, unpleated tablecloth. A couple of guys in the pipe band looked ok as well as a few others. I'll probably go again for the Scots weekend though.

I did hit up the KC Irishfest afterwards and saw a ton of utilikilts and a few decently worn tartan kilts.

**kilted in kleaveland** · 5th September 06, 08:38 AM

What one should remember is the venue. A ren faire is an occasion for many to play "dress up'. It is an opportunity to step out of your real life and enjoy the day. It is not a Burn's supper. I've been to festivals where few people besides the actors were "dressed', and I've been to ones with LOTS of participation. When people get into the spirit albeit as a wizard, princess or pirate, it makes for a more enjoyable outting. I can't help but notice both nice kilts and bad ones, however at least I give credit to those trying. When appropriate, (i.e. when asked) I tell people about X-marks, Usa, Stillwater etc.

**Kilted KT** · 5th September 06, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by MacWage

I wonder what peole would think if you wore them together????

Aren't Clan MacTablecloth and Clan MacWal(mart) connected :rolleyes: ?

Clan MacWal(mart) is a sept of MacTablecloth...The sept formed some time after the Proscription was repealed, when the english couldn't find any more Tablecloths, and started buying tartan from the MacTablecloth clan weavers. MacWal(mart) grew primarily from MacTablecloth weavers who were drinking too much scotch to get the tartan straight, and were shunned by their clan chief.

Laast I heard, the MacTablecloth clan chief is a greeter at Wal-Mart.

**Tartan Hiker** · 5th September 06, 08:53 AM

I've also noticed that the number of MacTablecloths is inversely proportional to the admission fee.

**michael steinrok** · 5th September 06, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by kilted in kleaveland

What one should remember is the venue. A ren faire is an occasion for many to play "dress up'. It is an opportunity to step out of your real life and enjoy the day. It is not a Burn's supper. I've been to festivals where few people besides the actors were "dressed', and I've been to ones with LOTS of participation. When people get into the spirit albeit as a wizard, princess or pirate, it makes for a more enjoyable outting. I can't help but notice both nice kilts and bad ones, however at least I give credit to those trying. When appropriate, (i.e. when asked) I tell people about X-marks, Usa, Stillwater etc.

Good on you! Some of these folks are just trying to have fun. They didn't pay good money to have kilt nazis make sarcastic comments about them. I admit to doing the same thing. Once I was shocked at kilt nazis. This is a great reminder to me .

It stops now. There are always going to be people who don't know better. If they are excited about it should we not encourage them? Some people are in a hurry and make mistakes and sometimes they are funny. But if some one is going to a ren faire in clan McTableclothe leave them alone if you are going to be mean. Nobody died and left us in charge!!!.Remember what Thumper said?" If you don't have nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all." end of soapbox speech

**macwilkin** · 5th September 06, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by michael steinrok

Good on you! Some of these folks are just trying to have fun. They didn't pay good money to have kilt nazis make sarcastic comments about them. I admit to doing the same thing. Once I was shocked at kilt nazis. This is a great reminder to me .

It stops now. There are always going to be people who don't know better. If they are excited about it should we not encourage them? Some people are in a hurry and make mistakes and sometimes they are funny. But if some one is going to a ren faire in clan McTableclothe leave them alone if you are going to be mean. Nobody died and left us in charge!!!.Remember what Thumper said?" If you don't have nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all." end of soapbox speech

Never cared for that term -- "kilt nazi". "Nazi" is far too evil of a word to use in such a casual manner. But that's just me.

Education is always a good thing, but never done in a mean-spirited manner. I am certainly a "kilt snob" when it comes to how I wear Highland attire, but I would never force my ways on others -- but if they ask me my opinions, I certainly will be honest and forthright with them.

Regards,

Todd

**Richland** · 5th September 06, 02:27 PM

Agreed, Not mean spirited at all I would appreciate it is someone appproached me and quietly provide some input to make me look more appropriate to the kilt.
MY QUESTION: KILTS and the RENAISSANCE. What do they have in common? Is that a bit off on the time periods.

**Andrew Green** · 5th September 06, 02:33 PM

What time periods are generally considered the renaissance?
I recall that the first documented example of the belted plaid was something like 1596. I am not totally sure if that would fall under renaissance, but it could be close. I was always under the impression that the renaissance more or less began after the Hundred Year's war... which I think would pace the start in the latter half of the 1300s. But I also recall reading that it was a rather lengthy time period as well. Someone correct me if my estimates are wrong.

*edit- I HATE typos.

**MacWage** · 5th September 06, 04:06 PM

Remember:
Ren-Faires and SCA are NOT the same thing, though many participants are in BOTH.
SCA tends to be a bit more realistic and into the real history.
Ren-Faires tend to be more "fun" and less "accurate." Some may have a set period, but I know that some do not, except a medieval-esque and "not-modern."

I have not taken part in either, mostly through lack of time, but have heard MUCH about both, including the guys that first helped me on "kilt 101" some 10 years ago+. (I'll keep opinions on both in my personal life, if you REALLY have to know-> PM me, not in a thread)