Aggressive reactions

**Blu (Ontario)** · 14th September 06, 05:00 PM

I've often wondered what is the root cause of the remarks some people utter. Your friend could simply be a very socially conservative person who believes that everybody and everything belongs in categories and columns and rows. When we break the rules of conformity, we must set in motion a whole array of little emotional responses within other people. Depending on the person, many won't care at all... others may be profoundly affected. Among those many if not most will pass you by with little more than a double take or a sideways glance. A few, like your friend, are more inclined to speak out.

With absolutely no data to back it up, I suspect that the following conditions come into play for those people...

The person will have an underlying tendency to be outspoken anyway,
-He/she is very likely a conformist and,
-believes everyone else should be a conformist and,
-believes it is their place to influence others to their ideals.

He/she may also be emotionally affected with feelings of
-sexual intrigue and/or
-embarrassment and/or
-anger and/or
-levity
from your bold and non-standard attire.

This is something they probably don't understand themselves, but they're making sure you know that they've been affected.

Bottom line... it's ultimately their problem problem to resolve.

blu

**parpin** · 14th September 06, 07:55 PM

Good night all,

I was dressed EXACTLY the picture on that link <P>
http://www.iq89.com/fr/moi/kilt.html

It is a Jacobite outfit or not ??????

I will be deeply sorry if I did something wrong :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

**Andrew Green** · 14th September 06, 08:23 PM

No, I wouldn't call that a jacobite outfit for a handful of reasons. Some might call it nitpicking, but I would say that is semi-formal modern dress. Your kilt is a modern kilt... at the time of the '45 (which wasn't the only jacobite rising, but the last), belted plaides would have been very common place, and you would have likely seen some feilidh beags as well. The brogues are also modern, and typically reserved for dressier occasions. Although these are accepted within re-enactment circles as sufficient, the more well to do clansmen would have probably worn buckled shoes... the poorer guys would have been barefoot, or wrapped their feet in leather or other available animal hide. Belt and sporran are more modern as well. Sporrans would have been a simple drawstring like/flip top pouch, and pretty simple in appearance. Solid colour kilt hose would = ok, but often you see tartan hose depicted in the paintings. Flashes weren't the same back then, as these were pieces of fabric tied around your calf to keep the hose up. The belt... that's up in the air on me, as I have not taken a closer look at older style belts.

I would say that you are dressed clean, and definitely look presentable, but I wouldn't call that a jacobite outfit.

Don't be sorry, you didn't do anything wrong. There is a lot to learn about historical jacobite era attire... hell, I have enough questions still to pester some of the more historical minded people on here, and other boards that I use... and it is largely thanks to those guys that I have learned so much so thus far. If you are interested in clothing styles from around the '45, Woodsheal is a great guy to post questions to. Matt Newsome could answer some questions about attire, and definitely questions about appropriate tartan selections for the time period.

There is much to learn, and this forum is a great place to start!

**davedove** · 15th September 06, 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by parpin

I will be deeply sorry if I did something wrong

You certainly didn't do anything wrong. Like others have said here, I would have worn a nice modern shirt with the outfit.

**cessna152towser** · 15th September 06, 05:08 AM

Nothing wrong with that outfit at all, Parpin, and not too garish, though personally for a similar occasion I would have worn my kilt with a casual polo shirt and would have worn ordinary black shoes with short laces.

**RockyR** · 15th September 06, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by Blu (Ontario)

With absolutely no data to back it up, I suspect that the following conditions come into play for those people...

The person will have an underlying tendency to be outspoken anyway,
-He/she is very likely a conformist and,
-believes everyone else should be a conformist and,
-believes it is their place to influence others to their ideals.

He/she may also be emotionally affected with feelings of
-sexual intrigue and/or
-embarrassment and/or
-anger and/or
-levity
from your bold and non-standard attire.

You've been watching too many "FBI Profiler" type shows...

BUT... I think you hit the nail on the head.

**RockyR** · 15th September 06, 07:04 AM

I checked out the Jacobite outfit and it was FINE! The only thing that was "period-ish" was the Jacobite shirt (I think that's probably why you called it a "Jacobite" outfit). If you would have thrown on a white button down shirt and a solid black tie, would she have been so offended?

Ask her if she'd give the same reaction to a Muslim woman wearing a dashiki to the cinema. All you're doing is expressing your culture and heritage and there is NOTHING wrong with that when it's done tastefully (which you did).

I would add to Blu's profile by saying that she is VERY insecure about herself and probably has low self esteem. She feigns high self esteem and confidence by trying to push her opinion on others, but inside, she worries tremendously what others think.

Yes... Feign is my $.50 word of the day.