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                                                16th September 06, 10:31 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	I think it came about, or was made popular, through the television show "Friends." I can't remember the background, but I seem to remember that being the spark.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by McClef Come to think of it where does the equivalent US expression "commando" come from?    
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th September 06, 03:53 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	True, true. Just came back from a week-end in Dumfries and an array of various comments (I'll need to compile a list and post seperately), where numerous calls from girls were heard: [I]are you a true Scot?[/I]
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by McClef The common belief is that the vast majority of kilted civilians do in fact maintain the tradition of being "true Scots" (another phrase in common usage) and therefore one would only be civilian in what one wore with the kilt rather than under it.    
 The one answer that worked and satisfied the callers each time was simple: Are there any Scots but true Scots?
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th September 06, 04:31 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Ah but that usage could have another meaning!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by porrick The one answer that worked and satisfied the callers each time was simple: Are there any Scots but true Scots?   
 Scots in their "breeks" are unlikely to be "true" although they may be true in their patriotism.
 
 And on Saturday there were some "untrue" Scots shown in their kilts at the Glasgow auditions for The X Factor
   
 But it was the "true" one who got through!
   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th September 06, 02:37 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Hehe - yepp it is all context-based
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by McClef Ah but that usage could have another meaning!       
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th September 06, 12:43 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	It certainly didn't come about from "Friends", nor was it made popular by the same.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by chasem I think it came about, or was made popular, through the television show "Friends." I can't remember the background, but I seem to remember that being the spark. 
 According to Wikipedia:
 "Slate's Daniel Engber dates the modern usage to 1974 college campuses, where it was perhaps an outgrowth of the Vietnam War. The origins of the phrase are uncertain, with some speculating that it may refer to being out in the open or ready for action. According to Engber many soldiers do go without underwear to increase ventilation and reduce moisture. The earliest known use of the term in print is January 22, 1985 with Jim Spencer writing in the Chicago Tribune: Furthermore, colored briefs are 'sleazy' and going without underwear ('going commando', as they say on campus) is simply gross."
 
 The producers of Friends have, however, made the claim that because of them the phrase is in the Oxford Dictionary.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th September 06, 01:14 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					All Commandos are soldiers but not all soldiers are Commandos ...
 I never saw more than about 10 minutes of Friends
   
 I am still not convinced that I missed much
   
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
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