Newbe Question alert: Okay to wear other tartan?

**MacWage** · 25th September 06, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by davedove

MacWage, that was the best way of explaining it I have heard. Good job!

While there are no laws, and there are certainly NOT the ancient links that many people believe, there are many more recent meanings to the tartan and to wear the tartan associates you with those meanings.

Thanks!!!

**Robin** · 25th September 06, 05:33 AM

Many of the ancient (pre 1819) tartans had...and some still have...no name, they were registered by Wilsons of Bannockburn with a number.
They were all fashion tartans...some received fancy names (like Caledonia...No.4 and No.155) and some are now in use as clan tartans (like Wilson No.232, later Regent, now MacLaren)

Go check the STA Tartan Ferret and search for wilson ...you'll see what I mean...

STA

it's refreshing

**arrogcow** · 25th September 06, 06:00 AM

Another thing to bear in mind is that just because a tartan has a clan name does not make it a clan tartan. For instance the tartan I'm wearing in the pic in this thread http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=21083 is called Montgomery. However, it is not the official Montgomery Clan tartan.

Adam

**majdan** · 6th June 07, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by arrogcow

Another thing to bear in mind is that just because a tartan has a clan name does not make it a clan tartan. For instance the tartan I'm wearing in the pic in this thread http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=21083 is called Montgomery. However, it is not the official Montgomery Clan tartan.

Adam

I always though that that was the Montgomery Anicent Tartan

**arrogcow** · 6th June 07, 12:33 PM

Ancient tartan means that it is the same colors and sett as the regular tartan, just lighter (like it's old and faded). Mine is listed with the STA as Montgomery VS and is only two colors as apposed to Montgomery (Clan) which has four colors (and a very different sett).

Adam

**Kilted-Marine** · 10th June 07, 01:12 AM

I pulled this off of THE Clan MacKenzie website...it is about who can wear their tartan-

Is your surname Mackenzie, or a variation of this name?

, or

Is your surname among those Septs of the Clan Mackenzie below?

, or

Are you related to a Mackenzie or any of the Sept surnames below?

, or

Are you sympathetic to the Clan Mackenzie Society's aims and activities and interested in the history of the famous Clan Mackenzie?

http://www.clan-mackenzie.org.uk/clan/mackenzie.html

The last one seems to be a COVERALL

**Robin** · 25th September 06, 07:01 AM

Observation:

Many old tartans have purple or pink.

**auld argonian** · 25th September 06, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by Robin

Observation:

Many old tartans have purple or pink.

Wouldn't that be because of vegetable and other natural dyes? It's my understanding that the modern versions of most tartans (and modern is a relative term, isn't it?) contain colors that are much more brilliant and saturated than the older ones bcause they used chemical dyes.

Best

AA

**Robin** · 25th September 06, 07:54 AM

That's very possible, but I also read...can't remember where...pink used to be a "manly" color.

Maybe Matt Newsome can tell us more :rolleyes:

**McClef** · 25th September 06, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Robin

That's very possible, but I also read...can't remember where...pink used to be a "manly" color.

Maybe Matt Newsome can tell us more :rolleyes:

Men's fashions have changed through the centuries and what colours they wore have also.

For a lot of the 20th Century pink was considered to be rather camp and many men eschewed it but it started to make a comeback for shirts, jumpers etc so why not also for kilts?

I bought a lovely pink jumper in Marks and Spencer's a couple of weeks ago but it looked a little OTT with my Black Watch tartan yet contrasts nicely with my Royal Stewart.