kilt lifters

[Gary Krueger]

I was gonna say....some of us could be reasonably categorized as out of the range within which women tend to flirt with so it's pretty unlikely that this is going to happen.

AA

Hummm. My wife would disagree with this. I am silver haired and large...I don't consider myself handsome nor cute...sorta average. But I have yet to be at any public event where women of all ages want to get a picture with me...and often take some advantage of the close situation, if you get my meaning.

Fortunately by wife is quite understanding and very trusting of me. Too bad I did not know the power of the kilt, or should I say, the mystique of the kilt, when I was 15. (50 years ago)

[KILT TURKEY]

Hello all,

I have not had to experience any "lifters" yet, though I have experienced "the question" frequently. After reading all these reply's it amazes me the audacity of some people. I am not sure how I will respond to the first time if I am that unlucky, for I am sure it won't end very nicely. Though I certainly have an idea of how to deal with it now. Thank you all for the great ideas and suggestions.

I agree with most that if its warrented, or permission was asked then ok, if its on my terms. If it's not then there will be some bruised knuckles on my part or the tell tale sign of embarresment on the ladies faces ( red, flushed face, by NO means I would ever hit a lady). I dont see how some can think its ok or their "right" to look under my kilt, it just dosn't have any logic behind it.
I am sorry to beat a dead horse / this topic, but I wanted to put my 2 cents known as I am a newbie.
Take care, do well
matt z

[Gil Prothero]

this is a classic..
i have really enjoyed this one.
harking back to my nude cruise eastern carrib, ( i know , i know..it's getting old and i love to brag..) every time some one asked, i showed them, it was a nude cruise....so?..
i met the prettiest girls...(sigh)
anywhere else, if they ask, i ask them if their hands are warm..
i think it's a flirting thing, be creative..
at a wedding, the gal i was dancing with, put her hand up it..
i was happy, she was happy..
she was surprised at how happy i was...( i will NEVER wear a sporran in front at a dance again!!) she had it high enough for all the girls to see... they looked, it may have been planned, at my age...it's safer for me than buying a chopper..
as for being harrassed... i think a biting chide, hurts a guy harder than any blow, and if his retort falls short, ( and it will) you WIN!!!
and no blood, if one goes where there is booze...( god bless you...) you had better be aware, SOMETHING will be said , or happen..
if you aren't intelligent enough to know that, you won't be mentaly ready with a proper come back..
if you are drunk too, a simple shout of "Armaugh ! " or Scotland forever, before you go beserk..will allow you to go down in history..
try NOT to fall down, try not to get in a fight, try to at least get her name..
ask the guys where their mommy is..
and, hey, i think i married a hairy tall butch nordic...
( they can never be too tall....lol)

[gilmore]

Hello all,

I agree with most that if its warrented, or permission was asked then ok, if its on my terms. If it's not then there will be some bruised knuckles on my part or the tell tale sign of embarresment on the ladies faces ( red, flushed face, by NO means I would ever hit a lady). I dont see how some can think its ok or their "right" to look under my kilt, it just dosn't have any logic behind it.
matt z

Can a woman who lifts a kilt still call herself a lady?

[mbhandy]

I beleive that a lot of the mystic of the kilt is propagated by kilt wearers.

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD6rxXd_Q1M

As if you haven't seen it before.
For all the newbies.

MrBill

[gilmore]

hmmmm...I am amazed at the -dare I say it?- prudish tone this thread has taken on, and the testosterone-enriched language it has provoked. Why should anyone be physically attacked for what is no more than(admittedly) tasteless behavoir? Peeking under the kilt is neither attempted murder nor attempted rape. At worst it's a low form of humor. Why should men be "sent to the hospital" and women attacked by out-of-control wives? Surely the lifters have made fools of themselves by their actions, but not made of fool of the unsuspecting kilt-wearer?

Kilt-wearing, like noblesse, oblige.....

It's because we are Americans. From our president down we have the notion that violence or coercion is the solution to every problem that comes our way.

[The Supreme Canuck]

I'm not an American. I will threaten violence if an apology is not forthcoming, and will back it up with force. Not only is violence a damned good deterrent, lifting the kilt is legally assault. I am within my rights to defend myself. Look at it this way: if you went over and lifted a woman's skirt, would you not expect them to at least slap you? Would you not expect worse? Why should my response be any less severe?

[raindog]

Hi all,
I think the problem is that these kilt lifters are crossing a boundary of respect and privacy without asking to do so.
I feel the same if strangers intrude on my personal space at all in fact. They are being rude in doing so. Kilt lifters are being rude, crude and lewd all at the same time!
When I get my first kilt I'll see how I react with a lifter. I expect I'll laugh it off, but inside I will be angry and pi**ed off.
I asked a girl at work if she'd be a kilt lifter when I got it....She said definitely....Not sure if that's good or bad in fact :rolleyes:


Jeff.

[scoutniagara]

I respect all of you for your own personal reasons and beliefs given, and agree that we all should have the right to have respect and control regarding our own bodies. If you don't like having your kilt lifted, it's well within your rights to not have your wishes violated.

I just have a more liberal feeling about nudity. Body parts are just that, body parts. I'm naked when the weather and conditions warrant it and if the laws allow it, and wearing the kilt is about as close to being naked that I can be in our society. It feels good.

While in a large outdoor group, some people wondered out loud what I wore under my kilt. A good and female friend slid her hand up my backside under my kilt to announce that indeed, I was regimental. She's seen me naked on canude trips before, so it was no big deal to her.

Another time recently, as I was heading out to pay for a meal at a restaurant, the waitress who had been serving me, asked if it was true that people don't wear anything under the kilt. I offered that indeed I didn't, and added the question, "What are you wearing under your pants?" She answered that she had on underwear at that time, but at other times, it did feel good to not wear any. If I had been single, I'm sure the conversation could have been longer and more personal. ;)
...but during the same time as this conversation was going on, another male friend beside me, who had not been drinking, lifted up my apron unexpectedly exposing me. I was a little flustered, as I was not expecting this. My concern wasn't about being naked, but being exposed against my wishes in a public restaurant.

I've been naked on board a cruise ship with about 2500 other naked passengers, so it's not the nakedness of the situation...it's about being in control of my own body.

[The Supreme Canuck]

That's just it, isn't it? While I would personally never choose to go about nude in public, I understand that there are those who would. Fine. It's a choice. But to have the choice made for you is simply wrong.