Quote Originally Posted by Kirkwood
I'm a former Boomer squid myself. I couldn't imagine climbing down the L.E.T. in a kilt.
Maybe that's why the Cob is pissed. He saw something he didn't want to when your friend was coming down the ladder.
Well... the subs in DMP right now. We have a living barge and the eng. dept. has a barge of office spaces for each division. He never went down to the boat while kilted at all.

Quote Originally Posted by navycb
Boy the Navy sure has change since I was in. File a grievance? When did the Navy go union? This must be part of the kinder and gentler military. When I was in you did what you were told untill you attained the rank to do the telling.
You can't tell me they didn't have formal grievance procedures way back when. I've been in for just shy of 13 years, and we've always had them. They basically come into play when one's command refuses to listen to reason.
I'd likely never need to file one... Charlie Oscar is a pretty laid back guy.

Quote Originally Posted by navycb
Have a talk with the CO? I guess there is no such thing as a chain of command anymore. Oh well at least we still have the Marines.
Umm... yeah. Except... when you need to go to the next step above the bull enlisted guy, you go to the CO.

Quote Originally Posted by GatorUK
I'm retired from the USN..but when I came in over 30 yrs ago Navy Regs provided for sailors to have direct communication with the commanding officer. A sailor may request to see the CO. His request will go up the chain of command and he may or may not disclose why he wants to see the CO. In my experience, when a sailor has a problem and has requested this, when he has disclosed why he needs to talk to the CO, the problem was resolved at a lower level.
The possibility exists that that would work in this case. Given the attitude of our COB, though, I'd doubt it.
Our CO has a very laid back open door policy. Anyone in the crew can talk to him at anytime. He doesn't mind.

Quote Originally Posted by GatorUK
Even though it's been over 10 years, the Navy is still "feeling the pain" from Tailhook. Any incidents of discrimination, or harassment whether it is sexual, racial, religious or cultural is dealt with swiftly.
In all techincality, the guy who was yelled at could make this both a racial and cultural thing. I don't think he would, but the possibility exists.