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beloitpiper Gaelic Speakers 4th December 06, 10:04 PM
Frank MacDuffy I just started to dabble in... 4th December 06, 10:49 PM
Tattoo Bradley I have a strong interest in... 4th December 06, 11:16 PM
slohairt Dia Dhuit, mo chara! Conas... 5th December 06, 12:54 AM
McClef Scottish Gallic is at a... 5th December 06, 03:37 AM
MacTavishOfJapan I'm hoping to start learning... 5th December 06, 06:44 AM
JimB I've picked up a CD and book... 5th December 06, 07:29 AM
beloitpiper New question: are there any... 5th December 06, 09:35 AM
Jimmy the Celt Beloit, check out... 5th December 06, 10:04 AM
McClef I only wish it were true but... 5th December 06, 10:07 AM
Deasan Suas leis a' Ghaidhlig 9th December 06, 12:24 PM
cavscout Tell me about it. The... 5th December 06, 10:22 AM
slohairt McClef is basically right.... 5th December 06, 10:45 AM
JimB OH, that's a shame. I was... 5th December 06, 11:16 AM
Rab Gordon I took Gaelic at school but... 5th December 06, 11:11 AM
cessna152towser When I worked as lawyer for... 5th December 06, 11:26 AM
slohairt As for resources on learning... 5th December 06, 11:43 AM
McClef "dubh du black " But... 5th December 06, 12:23 PM
slohairt Yes, the pronunciation is... 5th December 06, 01:44 PM
Mike1 If you're hunting a Scots... 5th December 06, 02:16 PM
McClef bh is one of several ways of... 5th December 06, 03:22 PM
Frank MacDuffy So would anyone have any... 5th December 06, 03:33 PM
JimB This isn't a bad one...... 5th December 06, 03:40 PM
slohairt True, McClef. But Welsh has... 5th December 06, 05:40 PM
Mike1 The Save Gaelic... 5th December 06, 05:57 PM
McClef True slohairt but the main... 5th December 06, 06:17 PM
Graham Good thread here, I would... 5th December 06, 07:04 PM
slohairt A Ghréamaigh (Graham), Is... 5th December 06, 10:48 PM
MacWage OK, I've been told my last... 6th December 06, 04:05 AM
Graham Sean, I'm ashamed to say that... 6th December 06, 06:42 AM
slohairt Dia Dhuit! Sorry I didn't... 7th December 06, 07:37 AM
McClef Yes indeed - Wales means... 9th December 06, 04:29 AM
slohairt Of course only the educated... 9th December 06, 08:12 AM
McClef Perhaps I phrased it badly... 9th December 06, 01:50 PM
N. Campbell I have picked up a few books... 6th December 06, 04:06 AM
beowulf67 Slohairt, One side of my... 6th December 06, 06:12 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by slohairt View Post
    The Lowland surname Wallace comes from the Anglo-Saxon Wealisc meaning "foreign". (Incidentally, this is where the word Wales comes from!)

    2) DAVIS. Davis (also Davies) is one of the most common names in Wales. (McClef could testify to this for sure!) It means "son of David" and would be "Ap Dafydd" (pronounced AP DAV-ITH) in Welsh. (Ap corresponds to Mac)
    Yes indeed - Wales means "land of the stranger" and probably refers to what once was an all-encompassing tongue which was unintelligible to English speakers Only the educated Welsh would have spoken English, such as Brother Cadfael.

    Cymru (Kumree) is its Welsh name The name Cymru is thought to derive from an old Brythonic word "combroges", meaning "compatriots", and derives from the struggle with the Anglo-Saxons.

    Davis/Davies is a common surname (not as much as Jones or Evans though). You sometimes see Davieson as a variant also.

    Many cultures have used "son of" as a surname. "Mac/Mc" in Gaelic, "Ben" in Hebrew, "Bin/Ibn" in Arabic, "Son/sson" in Scandinavian cultures etc.
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    Of course only the educated would speak English!:rolleyes:
    Ah, Brother Cadfael...

    Cymru probably did encompass all of Britain (or at least southern britain). I believe Cornwall was once called West Wales, was it not?

    I took Celtic Studies in university and many courses did cover Wales and the other Celtic nations. Unfortunately, most of the emphasis was on Ireland and Scotland. In fact, I've noticed that many Celtic festivals here in North America seem to be Irish-Scottish festivals in actuality. You couldn't even call them Gaelic festivals because they forget the poor little Manxman! Wales, Brittany, Cornwall, and of course, the Isle of Man often seem to be neglected.
    I do recall one exception. I was at a Celtic festival in a small town called Goderich and they actualy had a Breton band! Later, I heard people say "Breton?" I thought that was a cracker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slohairt View Post
    Of course only the educated would speak English!:rolleyes:
    Ah, Brother Cadfael...

    Cymru probably did encompass all of Britain (or at least southern britain). I believe Cornwall was once called West Wales, was it not?
    Perhaps I phrased it badly :rolleyes: Welsh was predominant and there wasnt much need to learn English given how far many people travelled in their lifetimes. Rich and powerful families who had connections outside of Wales would know and use English as would those who travelled outside of Wales as Cadfael did with his Crusader history before he became a monk.

    I haven't heard of Cornwall being called that I'm afraid and google was no help.
    [B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.

    Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
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