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18th December 06, 06:40 PM
#31
Troopers, uniforms, supplies and change...
Filman -
Junior enlisted ('Other Ranks') in the Highland regiments were issued standard sized kilts on a temporary basis as needed for duties. That's why, on eBay and elsewhere, MoD kilts have sizing information on the labels...
But, outrage aside, this is always how the military works in periods of change. When you go to a new piece/style of uniform/gear/kit/equipment there are initially shortages, and when the kit is symbolic, like the kilt, beret, green class 'A' uniform, Barracks cap (pick one) a hue and cry will be raised - but soldiers know better. Officers and Sergeants will continue to buy their own, as we always have, and the RSM (Regimental Sergeant Major - AKA official uniform and Tradition Nazi) will make da*ned sure his troops turn out right on parade! Bake sales, car washes, pin-up calendars (an MoD Men in Kilts beefcake calendar for the ladies? It'd sell like hotcakes!) - whatever it takes, out Highland brethren will NOT stop celebrating their heritage.
As an aside - apparently sandbags are in short supply on the range -
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...sniperteam.jpg
PLEASE tell me these snipers aren't Scots!
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18th December 06, 07:26 PM
#32
Several weeks ago I asked this sagacious body about the propriety of wearing my Black Watch kilt during my upcoming trip to Scotland. Numerous UK posters said..Go for it, and wear it with pride. I now know that I will indeed be wearing it proudly, and will be happy to lend my support to those enraged by the amalgamation.
Bill
Kilted Teacher and Wilderness Ranger and proud member of Clan Donald, USA
Happy patron of Jack of the Wood Celtic Pub and Highland Brewery in beautiful, walkable, and very kilt-friendly Asheville, NC.
New home of Sierra Nevada AND New Belgium breweries!
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19th December 06, 10:38 AM
#33
NPR says Scottish troops must deploy without enough kilts to go around
As heard on National Public Radio's Morning Edition today, Dec. 19:
"Morning Edition, December 19, 2006 · Here's one more challenge for the coalition of the willing. Thousands of Scottish soldiers must deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan without their kilts. Soldiers of the Royal Regiment of Scotland no longer wear kilts into battle. Presumably, there's no good Kevlar kilt. But troops do wear them for ceremonial occasions. And a contracting mix-up caused a shortage. There's only one kilt for every fifteen soldiers. So, for now, the troops have been ordered to share."
What next?
--rob
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Here's a bottle and an honest friend!
What wad ye wish for mair, man?
—Robert Burns
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19th December 06, 11:28 AM
#34
Originally Posted by kilted_brewer
So, for now, the troops have been ordered to share."
What next?
Next is the complete elimination of the kilt, you can bet on it.
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19th December 06, 11:51 AM
#35
Since the newly amalgamated "super" regiment is going to wear the government tartan, i.e., Blackwatch, why can't all the old kilts still be used? I think there may be more than 320 kilts floating about, only 320 new ones.
Surely the kilts will be provided. It's a great morale thing with the Highland regiments, I think.
On another note, I think that the kilts are all tailered, but--I think--they are partially made and sent on to be custom fitted when issued. I know in the USMC, all dress uniforms are tailored to fit, but they are premade "off the wall."
Jim Killman
Writer, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
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19th December 06, 01:35 PM
#36
So, I'm at my doctor's office this morning after my annual physical exam waiting to pay my bill.
An elderly (older than me) lady is walking in, sees me in my blue denim Utilikilt, and says to her friend..."He's wearing a kilt, they're short of them now in Scotland." Then she looks me in the eye but says no more.
Maybe she expected me to donate mine...?
But dang folks....I live in a VERY remote area....but we do have cable and dish tv so guess she picked it up there...
People notice, and people seem to care.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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19th December 06, 08:51 PM
#37
The power of the Media!!!
I was at my school's faculty Christmas party just tonight and no fewer than 6 different folks commented to me about the "kilt shortage." most understood the situation well enough, but a few were totally confused, so I had to explain as best I could.
Kilted Teacher and Wilderness Ranger and proud member of Clan Donald, USA
Happy patron of Jack of the Wood Celtic Pub and Highland Brewery in beautiful, walkable, and very kilt-friendly Asheville, NC.
New home of Sierra Nevada AND New Belgium breweries!
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19th December 06, 09:45 PM
#38
Originally Posted by Riverkilt
So, I'm at my doctor's office this morning after my annual physical exam waiting to pay my bill.
An elderly (older than me) lady is walking in, sees me in my blue denim Utilikilt, and says to her friend..."He's wearing a kilt, they're short of them now in Scotland." Then she looks me in the eye but says no more.
Maybe she expected me to donate mine...?
But dang folks....I live in a VERY remote area....but we do have cable and dish tv so guess she picked it up there...
People notice, and people seem to care.
Ron
They do indeed, Ron. I was leaving the post office today when a fellow walking behind me said that perhaps I should send mine to Scotland for the troops.
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22nd December 06, 05:17 PM
#39
Originally Posted by thescot
Since the newly amalgamated "super" regiment is going to wear the government tartan, i.e., Blackwatch, why can't all the old kilts still be used? I think there may be more than 320 kilts floating about, only 320 new ones.
The Black Watch is only one part of the new super regiment - is it certain that this tartan is the official one? Google didn't help to make this clear.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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22nd December 06, 06:00 PM
#40
Government Sett
Originally Posted by McClef
The Black Watch is only one part of the new super regiment - is it certain that this tartan is the official one? Google didn't help to make this clear.
Government Sett (1A) is the official tartan of the Royal Regiment of Scotland.
http://www.regiments.org/regiments/uk/inf/001SCOTS.htm
Regards,
Todd
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