Box pleated kilt vendors?

**Kid Cossack** · 25th December 06, 06:16 PM

Gents, ladies, etc.:

Salud! Does anyone know of other kiltmakers who offer a box pleated kilt? The only two I know of are our own O'Neille and of course Matt Newsome. I love my Newsome kilt, and an O'Neille is on order (and I'm only feeling good things about that kilt as well!). Being interested in other kilt makers is in no way a negative reflection on these gents---just as having R. L. Burnside in your music collection is no reflection on, say, Albert Collins. (Blues guitarists, the two of them.)

Best regards,

KC

**cavscout** · 25th December 06, 06:56 PM

Stillwater will be offering his HW Leatherneck tartan in a box pleat to stripe , initially.

**MacWage** · 25th December 06, 07:26 PM

A few might be coming soon, well at least one very soon

Especially after Barb's next edition of her book comes out, I have NO doubt there WILL be more.
Matt learned from Bob Martin and Matt has helped a few home-kilters get going. I'm not sure who else Bob (or Matt) has taught. So far, Matt is THE box kilt maker extrodinaire.

(Sitting in my own home-made box pleat and several more to go),

**Dreadbelly** · 25th December 06, 07:43 PM

I'd like to see some canvas box pleated kilt vendors. Or even PV box pleated kilts.

**Riverkilt** · 26th December 06, 08:42 AM

Kathy Lare of www.kathyskilts.com offers a military box pleat option.

Not to start any controversy, just to advise, apparently her box pleat is the the style she took special training for at the Keith Kilt School and may be a tad different than other kiltmakers.

Here's from her website about that:

"Returning to Scotland in May of 1999 she studied the unique crafting of the military box pleated kilt of the Scottish regiments and achieved an award in Traditional Handcraft Kilt Manufacturing. This professional development award paves the way towards becoming a Master Kiltmaker, which was almost a dying breed now in Scotland."

Kathy's a very genial lady and certainly happy to answer email or phone questions about her work.

And please folks, I'm only posting this as an option to the question asked, not to say her work is any better or worse than anyone else's.

Kathy has sewn up six kilts for me so far with one more on order. I highly reccomend her. And, like many other kiltmakers, when ordering a hand sewn kilt you only need make a half payment up front to acquire the material. The balance owed is paid when the kilt is complete and ready to ship. For me, that made addiction to hand sewn kilts easier.

Ron

**bubba** · 26th December 06, 09:56 AM

Keep in mind that the military box pleat is much different from the standard box pleat that Matt uses. It's more like a knife pleat folded back on itself.

**way2fractious** · 26th December 06, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

Kathy Lare of www.kathyskilts.com offers a military box pleat option.

...she took special training for at the Keith Kilt School and may be a tad different than other kiltmakers.

FYI -

The military box pleat is, indeed, an entirely different pleating style than a regular box pleat. The line drawing below gives an indication of the difference. A military box pleat kilt is essentially knife-pleated, with the knife-edge turned back to show the vertical stripe. It produces a heavy and totally awesome kilt. It also requires a lot more work than a regular box pleat or a standard knife edge pleat.

I have a kilt length of Weathered MacLaren and my intention is to build it into a military box pleat kilt sometime this year.

**cloves** · 26th December 06, 10:16 AM

Fractious, did you draw that? It's the first time I've seen that many different types of pleating all in the same post. Thanks! I really appreciate being able to see them all at once.
If you add the Kinguisse and the reverse Kinguisse then I think it should be stickied.
Good work.

**Dreadbelly** · 26th December 06, 10:18 AM

A canvas duc double box pleat would be a tank. Oh my.

**way2fractious** · 26th December 06, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by cloves

Fractious, did you draw that? It's the first time I've seen that many different types of pleating all in the same post. Thanks! I really appreciate being able to see them all at once.
If you add the Kinguisse and the reverse Kinguisse then I think it should be stickied.
Good work.

I must confess, I did not draw them. But I did lift the individual ones and put them into a single .jpg and relabeled them. The Kinguisses you mentioned are a combination, with knife pleats on each side and a box pleat in the center back. In fact, the inverted Kinguisse is what Utilikilts uses for their kilts.

As you can tell, this is way2fun!

w2f