Question concerning regimental cap badge mounting

[PiobBear]

I like to use an awl, rather than a blade. A bit more difficult, but once the holes are big enough to push the lugs through, with wear they close up a bit again, making a snug fit.
As Jim pointed out, the trick is getting them properly aligned first; you really want to do this only once.

[Warhoover]

I don't have a red hackle for it yet. But, when I get one, will I need to make another hole to get the pin through the hackle loop to secure it. Since the pin and lugs will be inside the glen? Or, is there a different way of securing the hackle. I know my cousin would be able to clear up all the little things for me, but I have a feeling he may be deployed right now since I have not heard back from him.
He also sent me a new glen badge for the new regiment. Its huge! It came with a backing plate that I am sure makes it easier to position the badge when your first making the holes.

Beuth, I tried using safety pins as you suggested but the lugs make the badge stand out from the cockade and it tends to flop around. I am just going to go the route of the awl and mount it.

Nanook, As a note I don't think it is a balmorral that you are thinking of, it is a khaki Tam o shanter. It was standard issue, but you are correct no regimental badge was worn with it. But, That seems to have changed, I have recently seen a photo of a khaki TOS from the Royal Highland Fuseliers on Wikipedia. It shows the khaki TOS with the new Royal Regiment of Scotland badge mounted on the Black Watch (Government) Tartan with the white hackle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tam_o'shanter_(hat)

[thescot]

I don't have a red hackle for it yet. But, when I get one, will I need to make another hole to get the pin through the hackle loop to secure it. Since the pin and lugs will be inside the glen?

I have an old Highland Fusiliers Tam-o-shanter (I think that's what it is, but can't remember. has a whilte plume), and I'll be darned if I know how the hackle is fastened. It's behind the tartan backer, but not through the bonnet itself, and I'm not about to take it apart to find out.

I think, if you're putting it on a glengarry, you'll fasten the red hackle behind the black cockade, but not through the hat. And the lugs will go through the hat and cockade.

In the old regiments, each one had its own style of headwear, even the khaki tams (one of which I wear daily in the fall and winter), so if you want yours to look authentic, you'll have to chech the exact regiment.

Your are correct that the Black Watch wore nothing but the red hackle on their tams, but who knows with the new amalgamation! Maybe they all wear that new lion rampant thing on everything. I suspect they are working out small ways to remain distictive in their batallions so as to preserve some pride and history.

One final note: I often wear an old WW II Scottish Reserve Regiment cap badge--it's simply a thistle--on a glengarry, and I have used straight pins through the cockade to fasten it rather than punch holes in the glen. It sticks out just a little, but you can bend the lugs a bit to minimize that.

[macwilkin]

Nanook, As a note I don't think it is a balmorral that you are thinking of, it is a khaki Tam o shanter. It was standard issue, but you are correct no regimental badge was worn with it. But, That seems to have changed, I have recently seen a photo of a khaki TOS from the Royal Highland Fuseliers on Wikipedia. It shows the khaki TOS with the new Royal Regiment of Scotland badge mounted on the Black Watch (Government) Tartan with the white hackle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tam_o'shanter_(hat)

The BW didn't wear cap badges on their balmorals either:

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/T...41/Qmph2a1.jpg

These gents are BW of Canada, but I have photos of the BW and there are no cap badges on the balmorals.

So you have one of the new "crucified cats", eh? I would love to see one "in person" -- the nickname comes from the old Highland Brigade badge the MoD tried to force on the regiments in the 1960's, the "crucified moose".

Did he send you a "jimmy" for your sporran?

T.

[Warhoover]

Cajun,
I have read before about the "Crucified Moose" and from what my cousin has told me it has recieved just as cold if not more bitter reception as the "moose" did. Its funny though. Its the same basic design. Makes you wonder. He uses a different term than "crucified cat" though , I will leave that to your imagination. Propieties of "good form" and all that.

I have only recieved a few things from him. I have vaguely heard the term "Jimmy" before but I don't know the meaning. If it is referring to a regimental sporran badge , then no I have not recieved one from him.

Slainte,

[macwilkin]

Cajun,
I have read before about the "Crucified Moose" and from what my cousin has told me it has recieved just as cold if not more bitter reception as the "moose" did. Its funny though. Its the same basic design. Makes you wonder. He uses a different term than "crucified cat" though , I will leave that to your imagination. Propieties of "good form" and all that.

I have only recieved a few things from him. I have vaguely heard the term "Jimmy" before but I don't know the meaning. If it is referring to a regimental sporran badge , then no I have not recieved one from him.

Slainte,

You are correct; a "Jimmy" is the nickname for the RHR sporran badge, which is St. Andrew & his cross.

I can just imagine what the Jocks are calling the new badge!

T.