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    The Phillabeg or "Little Kilt" is the modern version.

    This is the kilt you see on members of Pipe Bands.

    I'm as confused as the rest of us when your say "Does this type of kilt have the inner and outer aprons like a 'Standard Kilt.'". It is a standard kilt.

    If what you are trying to describe is the kilt that you see worn by Pipe Bands then the definative work on how to make one is "The Art of Kiltmaking" By our own Barb Tewksbury. This book is available at your local library but I suggest you check www.celticdragonpress.com and buy your own copy. Not just well worth the money, this book is a 'must have' for anyone thinking about making their own kilt.
    Steve Ashton
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    Steve,
    Quite often,when someone uses the term "phillabeg" they're referring to the early, 18th C. version - usually for re-enacting purposes. I agree: our modern kilts are indeed "phillabegs", but they're somewhat different than the ones of 250 years ago....
    Brian

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    I will let other psudo historians and members of SCA argue and debate those points.
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    Swish + Swagger = Swoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC View Post
    I will let other psudo historians and members of SCA argue and debate those points.
    Well, this "psudo" historian has a Masters Degree in the discipline! Do you have something against recreating the past within the "living history" and re-enactment hobbies, and the folks therein who strive to have their period garb and kit as historically accurate as possible?

    Now, one could talk about modern pseudo-kilts as well, couldn't one...?
    Brian

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    Smile The "Little Kilt" I was refering to.

    The directions which PIOBBEAR provided are what I was looking for. I was not searching for information about a generic modern or traditional kilt but rather the old model Feilidh-beag which was folded each wearing by the wearer. According to Celtic Croft, they also make the Feilidh-beag with sewn in pleats. I would love some pics to see how this is done exactly, especially the waist band and the concealed buckles.
    I thank everyone who replied to my request. To answer those who wonder why I want an old model Feilidh-beag, it is probably for the same reason that I fly paragliders, because I want to.

    Gordon of Clan MacHardy origin

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    terminology

    The Gaelic term feilidh-beag (often Anglicized as "phillabeg") simply means "little wrap."

    A lot of people use it to mean the modern day kilt, and this is one correct usage of the term.

    However, myself, and others who are concerned with the history of the kilt and its development, use the term slightly differently.

    I use the term feilidh-mor to refer to the large belted plaid (double width), worn from the late 16th through to the latter 18th centuries.

    I use the term feilidh-beag to refer to the untailored lower portion of the belted plaid (single width), worn from the early 18th century (some might say earlier) to the end of the 18th century.

    I use the term "kilt" to refer to the modern tailored kilt, worn from the 1790s on to today, in various styles of pleating.

    I find that those who deal with historical and well as modern kilts will use the term feilidh-beag in this more limited sense, while those whose concern for the kilt is mostly modern will use the term more broadly.

    Neither are wrong. It just helps to specifiy just what you mean in a large public forum such as this one.

    Matt

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    Thank you Matt.
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    I wear the kilt because:
    Swish + Swagger = Swoon.

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    Woodsheal,

    I shall consider myself slapped.

    My MSc is in Engineering what do I know!
    Steve Ashton
    www.freedomkilts.com
    Skype (webcam enabled) thewizardofbc
    I wear the kilt because:
    Swish + Swagger = Swoon.

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