Yet Another Kilte Hamebrew

**Andrew Green** · 28th November 06, 02:05 PM

Hey Dale, does your local legislation prohibit you from selling small quantities to enthusiasts?

A couple of my acquiantances do home brew, and so far they have turned out a Snow Cap clone, which tasted better than the actual Snow Cap winter ale, and one that they were sort of experimenting with. The experimental tasted great too, but was VERY carbonated...which isn't necessarily a bad thing depending on your preferences with beer...some people might like a very lively mouthfeel from their brew.

**Andrew Breecher** · 28th November 06, 03:04 PM

In the U.S. it's illegal to sell homebrew. The two main reasons are: the government needs to tax alcohol, and you'd need to get a permit to sell food made in your kitchen. Neither is easy to obtain.

However, I've thought about selling original artwork, which just happens to be pasted to the outside of a bottle.

Mostly though, homebrew is for giving away. I'd really love to open a brewpub in a few years, once I get my third long-distance hike out of my system.

Andrew.

**Andrew Green** · 28th November 06, 03:08 PM

To the other Andrew:
Sounds like a great idea. Being an establishment would mean that you had all the credentials to back it up, legally.
There is money in the niche markets...with any product.

**Matthew J. Greene** · 14th February 07, 05:04 AM

Mowgli, That is a good looking brewing set up. How did the ale turn out. I'm sure a high gravity ale such as yours still needs a bit of aging. I always open up a bottle per week until it is aged well. It is amazing how the taste will change over a time.

I am still doing extract with grain recipes. Someday I will make the jump to all grain brewing. It's a bit tough to do in an apartment.

I have a ten gallon stainless brew kettle. It is not ported, so I still have to siphon. No problems there, that's what I'm used to. I am planning on getting a propane burner to enable a full wort boil. I am also planning on making an immersion wort chiller. The ice bath in the sink is a bit tedious. I am also going to purchases a stainless o2 injection stone. I have had problems in the past with slow fermentations due to low o2 in the wort. Luckily, it didn't hurt the beer. In addition to increasing my o2 content, I am also going to start doing yeast starters.

I like primarily stouts, Scottish Ale, and Wee Heavys. Some of my commercial favorites are Guinness (of course

), Belhaven, and Orkney Skullsplitter. I am also a fan of Mcewan's Scotch Ale. I have turned out two really good pale ale/bitters, and a good wheat beer.

I am also looking at making Mead, Ciders, and wine.

For those who expressed interest in homebrewing, here are two great suppliers:

Northern Brewer - They are very reputable. They also have a forum of which I am a member. Great customer service and shipping.
http://www.northernbrewer.com/

William's Brewing - Good catalog and products. They have expanded into coffee roasting.
http://www.williamsbrewing.com/?source=overture

A really good book for brewers is "How To Brew" by John Palmer.
Here is the link to his site: http://www.howtobrew.com/
Palmer's book in conjunction with Papazian's "Joy of Homebrewing" will give you all the info you need to go from basic brewing all the way into allgrain brewing. Of the two, I would recommend Palmer's first.

**Fearnest** · 14th February 07, 07:20 AM

I'm glad to see you've found a good use for that large room in your house! Is that where the tasting party will be?

**porrick** · 14th February 07, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Dirk Skene

It is SOOO easy! And if you like the good beers, it's cheap after your 1st batch.

I'm in the final phase off completing a 60 sqm garage (walk-in from house), and this thread has certainly decided for me what to use part of it for...

Yes, price-wise home brewing is more than merely an option. I pay almost £3 for one can of Guinness or other decent beer in the supermarket (!)

**porrick** · 14th February 07, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by Andrew Breecher

In the U.S. it's illegal to sell homebrew. The two main reasons are: the government needs to tax alcohol, and you'd need to get a permit to sell food made in your kitchen. Neither is easy to obtain.

However, I've thought about selling original artwork, which just happens to be pasted to the outside of a bottle.

Mostly though, homebrew is for giving away. I'd really love to open a brewpub in a few years, once I get my third long-distance hike out of my system.

Andrew.

The same applies in Norway. Art work? now that is interesting...

One way we do it is having a Brew Club, and it is legal to serve to a club with a membership. The members simply cover the cost of the ingredients.

**Colin** · 14th February 07, 09:57 AM

I am in canning my newest batch of U brew Friday night. It's ready today, but if I skip out on Valentines Day to make beer with my buddies, Well......let's just say I will be sleeping in the garage with the beer.

**Eujeankilt** · 14th February 07, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Matthew J. Greene

Mowgli, That is a good looking brewing set up. How did the ale turn out. I'm sure a high gravity ale such as yours still needs a bit of aging. I always open up a bottle per week until it is aged well. It is amazing how the taste will change over a time.

I am still doing extract with grain recipes. Someday I will make the jump to all grain brewing. It's a bit tough to do in an apartment.

I have a ten gallon stainless brew kettle. It is not ported, so I still have to siphon. No problems there, that's what I'm used to. I am planning on getting a propane burner to enable a full wort boil. I am also planning on making an immersion wort chiller. The ice bath in the sink is a bit tedious. I am also going to purchases a stainless o2 injection stone. I have had problems in the past with slow fermentations due to low o2 in the wort. Luckily, it didn't hurt the beer. In addition to increasing my o2 content, I am also going to start doing yeast starters.

I like primarily stouts, Scottish Ale, and Wee Heavys. Some of my commercial favorites are Guinness (of course

), Belhaven, and Orkney Skullsplitter. I am also a fan of Mcewan's Scotch Ale. I have turned out two really good pale ale/bitters, and a good wheat beer.

I am also looking at making Mead, Ciders, and wine.

For those who expressed interest in homebrewing, here are two great suppliers:

Northern Brewer - They are very reputable. They also have a forum of which I am a member. Great customer service and shipping.
http://www.northernbrewer.com/

William's Brewing - Good catalog and products. They have expanded into coffee roasting.
http://www.williamsbrewing.com/?source=overture

A really good book for brewers is "How To Brew" by John Palmer.
Here is the link to his site: http://www.howtobrew.com/
Palmer's book in conjunction with Papazian's "Joy of Homebrewing" will give you all the info you need to go from basic brewing all the way into allgrain brewing. Of the two, I would recommend Palmer's first.

Matthew,

It's drinking quite nicely. I'm already down to the last 10 or 12 bottles.

I've only done all grain once, with a friend. It was more work than I was willing to do.

I know most of my batches suffer from low O2 as well. I rock the carboy for 20 to 30 minutes, but an injection system would be best. I've been doing yeast starters for years and it's a real jump start on fermentation. I highly recommend it.

Dale

**starbkjrus** · 14th February 07, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by porrick

I'm in the final phase off completing a 60 sqm garage (walk-in from house), and this thread has certainly decided for me what to use part of it for...

Yes, price-wise home brewing is more than merely an option. I pay almost £3 for one can of Guinness or other decent beer in the supermarket (!)

Ouch, you guys weren't kidding in Dumfries when you said it was expensive to drink in Norway. I get hacked when I spend 3 to 4 GBP's for a six pack. 3 GBP's for a bottle in the grocery is....well, I'd be homebrewing too.